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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Or they have to be willing to use a simple majority to get rid of the filibuster.

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 8 months ago

They don't have the guts because the 2024 senate election landscape doesn't look great for Dems. Most of the purple seats that are up for reelection have democratic incumbents. Traditionally that would mean that Democrats will lose seats. They don't want to hand republican candidates in these states the talking point of "authoritarian democrats" killing the filibuster with a 1 seat majority.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

And what was the excuse in 2009 when they wouldn't kill the filibuster for the public option? What was the excuse in 2021 when they wouldn't kill the filibuster to codify Roe or pass the John Lewis voting rights act?

There is always, always some excuse from Democrats. You may be happy to be strung along forever with empty promises and flimsy excuses. I'm sick of it.

[-] mjhelto@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Everyone is sick if it. But if it comes down to tRump or Biden, it's Biden all the way. This is not the year for a protest vote, at least not if you ever want to vote again. Also, traditionally, the second term of a Democrat president sees more getting done as they don't have to care about getting reelected. They can take more politically risky moves that the elite and Republicans may not be fully onboard with or try to campaign against.

Bottom line is, we know both of the (presumed) candidates this year and I trust the current one far more than the previous one. Strategic voting is more important this year than any other time in history. Progress, even slower than we may like, is still progress.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Everyone is sick if it.

No centrist democrat is.

But if it comes down to tRump or Biden, it’s Biden all the way. This is not the year for a protest vote, at least not if you ever want to vote again.

And here we are again. I did not say people should not vote. I did not say people should vote for Trump. But the empty promises and the endless excuses need to stop, and they needed to stop decades ago.

Now Democrats are promising to stop fascism, and I see no reason to believe them because it's a promise from Democrats.

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