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The crimes of Donald Trump were not rooted in one man either but getting rid of one major malignant tumor does help things along.
did it though, nothing has really changed sense his presidency has ended and arguably it has all gotten worse, all be it at a SLIGHTLY less breakneck pace. Not only that but his popularity never weigned and he is poiesed to come back, and I will be honest as much as I do not want trump to come back I would be a fool to say I did not expect him to win the election in 2024.
So no, temporarily removing him did basicly nothing, except allow feckless liberals to go to brunch and ignore everything that is going on in the world
It would take quite an argument for me to believe things are worse now than November of 2020.
Abortion is now illegal in many States, we have a potential civil war, with several states in a stand off with the federal government over weather or not death traps can be put in the rio grand, instead of actually doing didily squat about it our lovely president has sat their with his thumb up his ass and just let it happen, the wall is still going up, we are having more deportations than we ever did under trump, and also more kids in cages, really the only difrence on the imigration front the only difrence is its more effective, quieter, and they use nicer words,
Oh and the special council investigating the president all but said he would not indite soly because of dementia.
Oh and the genocide in Isreal got worse
November 2020 was pre Covid vaccine. The election denial that started that month led to an actual insurrection, not just the cowboy fantasy of Texas pushing back on a court ruling.
US GDP is 15%+ higher today, the S&P500 is up like 40%, unemployment is 3.7% instead of 6.7%, we have an infrastructure investment plan actively fixing bridges and building tunnels, we are in progress to reduce carbon emissions to 40% below 2005 levels due to the IRA. There was a bipartisan gun control law passed. Things just are better.
this is literally just from him ending covid restrictions. getting us to the same exact point Trump had us at before the pandemic by just pretending its over is not exactly a great endorsement of his presidency.
The covid restrictions are gone, that's better. In spite of all predictions there has been no recession over 4 years and unemployment has stayed low the entire presidency. That's better. I literally don't know what more you could want in the metrics of unemployment and covid restrictions.
The covid restrictions being gone is only better if covid is gone. Unemployment hasn't "stayed low the entire presidency" it was one of the highest it's ever been and only got to this point over the course of two years. If we didn't get enough of a recession to meet your standard for calling it that, we at the very least got close enough to spark a huge national debate in the media about what constitutes a recession.
As for covid restrictions, you could at least reinstate a mask mandate or hell even just a recommendation, even if only during outbreaks. And I'm not giving him credit for making unemployment the exact same as his predecessor when he didn't do anything for unemployment that wouldn't have happened anyway, under any president.
That's an impossible bar to clear, the next best thing is vaccines so prevalent that covid numbers stop surging and get down to manageable levels. That is what happened, since November of 2020.
Bidens presidency started January 2021, unemployment at 6.4%. By the end of the year it was at 3.9%. And it has been steady between 3.5% and 4% ever since.
We didn't meet the US definition. The NBER decides, and they say there wasn't a recession. You are 100% right that the media and political figures were were talking about an impending recession the entire time, and it never happened. That is a good thing.
Then you should credit Donald Trump for that because he's the guy who expedited the vaccine. He stopped claiming credit for it when his base booed him every time he brought it up. Nevermind that there have been multiple periodic surges since lockdown was ended.
This is incredibly disingenuous. It started high because of lockdown and only reached pre-pandemic levels after 2 years. I will not give him credit for something literally anyone sitting in that position, even Trump, would have eventually done. It was not some victory of labor policy, all he did was end lockdown.
Barely scraping under some threshold that the US arbitrarily decides is more forgiving for them than the rest of the world is not some huge accomplishment you should be touting. Treating a recession like some binary on/off switch is absurd.
Make your argument that the economy is worse now than in November 2020, I'll wait.