One of them has told me that NATO is 1) super needed right now 2) Ukrane is not doing genocide, and the ICJ proved this as when they investigated Russia they found no Ukrainian Genocide, 3) NATO was never formed to harm the USSR or Russia, 4) If it was, then why would you bring up the USSR or Russia trying to join it checkmate Tankie, 5) Russia has definitly lost because their economy is in shambles, they have used more wepons then they can ever recover, and nato has expanded, how can that be a victory

I am still trying to figure out how to respond to this, because, I just do not understand how they can be so far outside of reality at this point