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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by acosmichippo@lemmy.world to c/formula1@lemmy.world

ICE is dead, and none of the developments make it to road cars anyway. Meanwhile, battery/EV tech needs all the development it can get and F1's have been frozen for years.

Make F1 road relevant again, not just aerospace on bubble gum tires. Let teams compete on the tech that actually matters to the motoring world.

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[-] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago

F1 doesn't genuinely care about being road relevant. They haven't for many years (if ever).

If they did care, they would have allowed active aero, less restrictive powertrain constraints, and many other innovations.

They care more about preserving the "image" of F1. And because of that, ICE will not be going away for a very, very, long time.

[-] Knuschberkeks@feddit.de 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Iirc Formula E has some kind of contract that guarantees it to be the only FIA sanctioned completely electric racing series until 2035, so some kind of ICE has to be retained in F1 until that point at least.

Edit: the agreement even goes till 2039

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Iirc Formula E has some kind of contract that guarantees it to be the only FIA sanctioned completely electric racing series until 2035, so some kind of ICE has to be retained in F1 until that point at least.

And Lewis Hamilton signed with Mercedes for 2025. There are always options that allow earlier changes.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

F1 doesn’t genuinely care about being road relevant. They haven’t for many years (if ever).

Car makers do, though. They were the ones who pushed for hybrid tech in the hypercar class of sportscar racing.

[-] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Do they really though? I know they say they do, but I don't think the mean it.

At the end of the day, manufacturers participate in F1 because of marketing. Not because of the opportunity to develop technology. Since F1 is a marketing exercise for them, they care more about the image their teams portray. Just like how F1 wants cars to project a particular image.

They want their brand associated with people seeing the car and saying "wow, now that's a racecar." ICE in F1 won't be going away until the general public divorces ICE from the image of high performance racecars. It has nothing to do with speed or technology development.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Do they really though? I know they say they do, but I don’t think the mean it.

(Additional reply) According to an interview with an DTM representative, car makers contacted them to pave a path for electrified cars (DTM is currently GT3-based).

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

It's harder to market overpriced electric and hybrid cars with a race series that acts as if E10 fuel was a massive innovation.

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Let's face it this is the real answer. Just think how many people just want to bring back the v10 era.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They care more about preserving the “image” of F1. And because of that, ICE will not be going away for a very, very, long time.

That's why I didn't propose the ICE to go away, just frozen. I understand it needs to be there for the image, oil money, length of the race, etc.

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