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Donald Trump will be the first former president to face a criminal trial, judge rules
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Be careful with that “no way Trump can slide on all 34 charges” stuff.
All you need is ONE juror to hold their ground and it’s a hung jury. You get one dedicated MAGAt creating an 11-1 hung jury and Señor BuildThaWall can delay prison with mistrial after mistrial.
How do you even have a jury trial for a president? isnt the jury supposed to not have a preexisting opinion of the person being charged?
From a jury I was being considered for (sexual assault), is not that you have no opinion, it is that you think you can be objective based on the evidence.
Right which a Magat thinks he will be.
'Fuck your feelings. We use logic over here in the sane world" - Literal Snowflake
Yea that's what I was thinking too. It's more likely a left leaning person recuse themselves for their impartiality than a right leaning person who already thinks Trump is being wrongfully prosecuted.
That's why both sides' lawyers gets to request to exclude potential jurors which they think would be biased
Not to mention I imagine they'll have more thorough vetting of potential jurors than you see on TV or in your local country courthouse
A jury only needs to convince the judge and both parties that they can rule impartially on the law.
Sadly true. However given jury selection is a thing, you can bet that prosecution did their best to weed out any overly biased jurors.
I mean, nothing is perfect (it's humans all the way down, and humans are flawed), but for a trial like this you can bet both sides went over everyone with the biggest magnifying glass they could find.
The need for a unanimous jury varies by jurisdiction and crime.
One of the cases in NY his lawyers failed to request a jury trial, and is being adjudicated by the judge who clearly has no love for the defendant, and seems to be doing everything he can to avoid an appeal, much less a mistrial. That one is sticking .
That was a civil trial, not criminal.
Well shit.
That’s true, but in every case against him with a jury so far, he’s still lost, even though a few jurors were trump supporters. When presented with the evidence in a forum where they have to listen, where that evidence wasn’t filtered through their lunatic talking heads, and where they couldn’t immediately run to their extremist forums to filter and reinterpret it for them, they’ve realised that oh yeah, this guy is a criminal and they’ve been duped.
I’m not concerned about rogue jurors. Many of his supporters can come back to reality when that reality is no longer filtered through a bullshit lens. Watch The Brainwashing of My Dad on ~~Netflix~~ (e: it’s no longer on Netflix. So Freevee, Prime, or Apple TV, I guess. I added the IMdB link, which includes places to watch it now). It covers much of that effect.