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i’m doing it because I want to make the fediverse more friendly place, in hopes of making it more welcoming for new users, and the nicer place in general. But I wonder how much is just less bots.

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[-] Historical_General@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well the basic rule of persuasion is to state what you agree with already, I assume an arguement can be productive and civil if you follow a similar pattern. State your points of agreement, then the diagreement.

[-] dsemy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I don’t try to argue though, usually.

I just share my opinion and people start arguing with me.

[-] Historical_General@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Well, if you're replying to somebody then they're going to understandably assume it's directed at their opinion, especially if you didn't simply post a comment on a post and replied instead.

Otherwise if your opinion is part of a current contentious political debate, then it will attract arguement and the best you can do is assume it's in good faith and try to counter the fundamental point they're making - if you're inclined to.

[-] dsemy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I agree with you, my point is that many other people don’t, and instead get very aggressive and resort to name calling or petty insults.

And I won’t lie, I’m not perfect and this sometimes happens to me, but never when someone is actually arguing in good faith, only as a response to someone already doing that or if their opinion is extreme (for example if they advocate racist ideas).

[-] Historical_General@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Well you can't control what other say, the only option is to ignore or tell them they're rude.

And I'd argue an extreme position isn't necessarily morally repugnant, and likewise racism is necessarily extreme. For example usury is a Christian sin, and having that crime abolished would achieve a moral good but it is an extreme position.

Btw I haven't looked at many of your comments, so I can't work out whether you're a centrist (who calls positions outside the overton window extreme), or if you're broadly a left-liberal euphemistically calling racism extreme.

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