So, with news of Reddit making deals to sell user data for AI training, I think we should really start organizing ourselves for an effective migration campaign.
I believe one of the (many) reasons that the summer protests failed was its lack of focus. There was an overall idea of "going dark" as an attempt to get Reddit to backtrack on some of its decisions, but once they double down on their decision there was no followup and creation of a credible threat, so only the more strong-willed really stuck by their principles and left reddit, the majority just shrugged it off and went back to their niche communities.
This long tail of niche communities is Reddit's biggest strength. There are plenty of places where people can find general news or share memes, but there is only one place that can connect people with its many different interests. This is why so many of you surely went to Reddit, despite our best efforts to bring enough people around here.
So, how about we change the strategy? If the general "spray and pray" approach only managed to bring 0.008% of Reddit's userbase to Lemmy, how about we put our focus on bring as many people as possible from a single one?
We should look into a subreddit with the following characteristcs:
- Not too big in size, around 100k - 300k subscribers.
- Still fairly active.
- Very specific in focus. Ideally, it would be a local community, but we could also think of a not-so popular subreddit dedicated to a niche hobby.
- The moderators of the subreddit need to be willing to participate, and follow through with the migration. That means, they need to keep promoting the Lemmy alternative until our corresponding community is at least as big as the Reddit one.
I'm thinking one potential candidate would be /r/adelaide (158k subscribers, multiple posts per day) but I haven't talked with any of the moderators so I don't know how that would go. (Any admins from aussie.zone that could chime in?) Of course, this is just an idea and if any would you think of another sub that could also work better we can talk about it. The important thing is not to spend too much time worrying on what subreddit we are going to push, just that we need to choose one and only one.
Once we find a subreddit that fits the bill, then our efforts go to supporting the subscribers to help them find a client, setup their account, subscribe to the new community and unsubscribe from the subreddit.
We don't even need to encourage them to leave Reddit altogether, we just need to get them to go through the motions of setting up Lemmy for one community. I think if we do that, it will be a lot easier to keep us all focused on the goal, the overall network effects won't be such a problem and the coming users will be more likely to stick.
This is already a wall of text, and I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will shoot this idea down for numerous reasons, but overall I really haven't given up hope on the Fediverse as the future of the Internet. We just need to work a bit for it.
Please dont' call it the "Threadiverse" the biggest advantage of Lemmy/kbin/mbin is ActivityPub and the fediverse.
I didn't know that I had to power of changing the nature of things and their abilities just because of the name being used.
Worrying about the name is the same as saying "we shouldn't make a distinction between mobile apps and web browsers because they both use HTTP".
you certainly have the power to shape how people think about things by naming them, and you seem to understand that. the fact that there is an activitypub implementation called "threads" and that is owned by some of the worst social media villains is likely to confuse people about it and play right into the EEE plans that we know for-profit technology companies love.
so don't do that.
Yeah, totally. My name is Raphael and I people keep confusing me with the Ninja turtle...
I don't want to waste any more time with this ridiculous argument. This is unbelievably boring. If you understand what I mean, then the communication was successful. Instead of nitpicking over the terminology, I would appreciate if you responded instead with something pertinent to the discussion.
>If you understand what I mean, then the communication was successful
just because i understood doesn't mean anyone else would. i've been using ostatus-enabled services over a decade. meta had a huge product launch with threads and promised to federate. it is confusing to refer to the fediverse as the threadiverse and serves to support an EEE agenda, whether you mean to or not.
Then it's on me to adjust my language to the different audience.
Look, you made a request and I already denied it. If you are more concerned with the form over the content of the discussion, please find someone else to pester. I really don't respond well to this hallway monitor attitude. It's this type of tone policing that sometimes makes a normal conversation impossible.
>Look, you made a request and I already denied it.
I'm not going to let your post and unchallenged, especially in this forum. the problem isn't that your language is imprecise, it's actively misleading. even if you won't change your behavior, perhaps someone who might have thought it was acceptable will no longer feel that way.
You can't follow a Mastodon account from Lemmy.
Those two types of platforms are different, even if they both use ActivityPub, and calling them Threadiverse and Microblogverse (or whatever that name would be) seems fair
I follow Lemmy..this is a mastodon account
as far as I know, you can't follow a Lemmy account from Lemmy.
Exactly.
Which is why it makes sense to distinguish platforms that are completely compatible (Lemmy and Kbin, or Mastodon with Misskey), compared to existing but lackluster compatibility (Lemmy and Mastodon)