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this post was submitted on 24 Feb 2024
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Ohhhh nooooo. Whatever will we do without your rationalization of genocide and blocking strikes?
Ive this one tagged as "Russian shill." Theres a bunch of these whose primary purpose on lemmy seems to be spouting as much kremlin approved talking points as possible, often attempting so lowkey, all while projecting absolutely nonhuman levels of confidence. They typically show up with at least a couple alt accounts just to upvote all their "opinions," and downvote dissenters.
Are you saying everybody who voted for Biden in the 2020 general election is going to vote for him again? And if not where do you suppose those people are sharing their perspective?
characterizing their legitimate complaints as with manufactured or outrage is just a rhetorical device. it doesn't address what they said at all.
Blocking strikes and supporting genocide. Is this the first time you're hearing those complaints?
this is just more rhetoric
Buddy, manufactured or not I'm not voting for Biden again. I'll be voting 3rd party or write in. If you think Biden needs my vote to defeat Trump then you best get on Biden to start compromising with leftists and progressives.
It's truly crazy to me how you all think that continuing to repeat the same tired arguments is going to change our minds. It won't. It's time to focus your energy on something that might have an effect. Try calling out moderates for refusing to compromise. Call Biden out for refusing to compromise.
Moderates are the major voting bloc of the Democrat party. They hold the lions share of the responsibility for how the candidate they chose in the 2020 primaries does in the general elections.
If Biden is going to continue to block strikes and support genocide I'm out. If you want my help then give us a seat at the table. Compromise on some policy decisions. If the only way you're willing to try to keep the ship floating is by screaming at people to vote for someone who refuses to compromise with them you have nothing to offer.
How about you compromise with leftists and progressives if you need their votes so badly?
Yeah, the Kremlin stopped paying them.
Moderates dominate the Democrat party. They undermine, sabotage and outright fight progressive and leftist efforts at every opportunity. Then they get big mad when progressives and leftists say they've had enough and won't show up in the general election. Moderates believe anything they do in politics is fair game but the moment leftists and progressives fight back they try to act like we're one big family. It's gaslighting bullshit.
Don't conflict these idiots with the entire left wing of the party. They are not representative, just loud.
And yet, despite being a minor part of a minor wing moderates and people like you will place Biden's loss squarely on our shoulders. Surely you see the ridiculousness there yes? The moderates as a majority voting block assume none of the responsibility when a candidate they chose in the primaries loses.
If they do, then they will be full of shit. Am I supposed to use that as an excuse to act like an idiot?
If you have change that you want to see in this country (as you should) then it's on you to get organized and build support. You don't get change by driving people away, which is exactly what your kind of toxic politics does.
Look what happened to the far right. They got exactly what they wanted on abortion, and now they are fucked. Instead of doing the hard work of building grass roots support, they went the authoritarian route. Republicans haven't had a good cycle ever since, with the far right doing even worse.
Kinda sounds like you think Biden can win the 2024 general election without our votes.
Good.
can we be friends?
Where are your candidates, where were they 9 months ago, a year ago? If you show up through a tantrum and don't do any groundwork what do you expect to happen? You are either a useful idiot, a conservative shill, or an accelerationist.
Why are you deflecting so hard away from a conversation about compromising with leftists and progressives? Is it because you know moderates are intentionally undermining, sabotaging and outright fighting progressives and leftists at every opportunity? Here's a superb opportunity for moderates to demonstrate their willingness to work with us on policy. If they won't do it now when democracy is at stake they will never do it.
Not voting for the lesser of two evils leaves room for the greater of two evils to take root
The people who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries voted for the greater evil.
Shit post, or actually an honest opinion?
If that's an honest opinion, what's your reasoning?
Not trying to bust your balls or anything, just curious.
Biden is a strike blocking, genocide supporting procorporate piece of shit.
Ahh, sorry I misread where you specified "primaries" in your original statement. No real mystery there.
I thought it was originally pertaining to Trump vs Biden. My bad.
No worries sir :)