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Perhaps for you Americans.
I live literally in the worst area of my city in Finland, and I don't need to fear anything like that.
In my last apartment, my downstairs neighbour was a guy who had sat 14 years for 1st degree murder and he hustled meth. He was actually pretty chill, and I was never even the slightest bit worried about him.
I've driven a taxi on weekends and evenings, driving bikers from their clubhouses. One guy jumped in literally yelling "were gonna go kill people" into his phone "no I don't have any money" and whatnot. I didn't challenge him, thought it easier to just drive him where he wants to. Ended up going to his brother, who was a very normal family man, he talked the face tattooed biker down, then gave him money. It ended up being the best fare of my night.
All this because we have gun control. I really don't have to be afraid. I mean, I have been, several times, as a younger person. But at least here in Finland, you don't actually need to fear much more than perhaps getting a fist in the face.
So yeah, please tell me more about how hacking your possibly armed and unreasonable neighbour would be less upsetting to him than just asking them to? Or writing a polite letter?
Kids these days will do everything to avoid social interaction, honestly.
Waking up at 9, putting on some reggaeton for your morning routine isn't that unreasonable and if no-one complains, how would you know you're bothering someone? And if your BT speaker just cuts out, you'd definitely try to figure out why, and perhaps even try getting a new one, so hacking won't actually solve the issue.
Yeah part of the problem you’re skipping past is that American apartments are built with twigs and paper. To maximize profits they’re built cheaply with minimal consideration for noise reduction, so you can hear your neighbor’s TV, fights, fucking, and their obnoxious music. If I could have found a way to shut off my neighbor’s TV blasting I absolutely would have, and you don’t need some asshole who already has broken the social contract of keeping noise at a reasonable level knowing where you live for potential harassment reasons.
My argument kinda relies on it.
Waking up at nine to do some light exercise with reggaeton at a mid level volume could easily wake up a person in another apartment.
So how on Earth would the person doing that know that it's bothering someone if they don't go and tell her?
Do you honestly think that if you had had a remote to your neighbours TV, it would've solved the issue? So when one of your devices suddenly turns off, you just go "oh well, guess I'm never watching TV again"? Or perhaps "oh the TV mysteriously turned off, that must mean that my neighbour is politely signaling I should lower the volume"?
I used to work night shifts, and a neighbour vacuuming at midday seriously pissed me off. Does that mean they were being unreasonable by not allowing me to sleep?
No. I asked her politely if she could vacuum later if there was nothing special she needed, and she agreed.
I know it's easy to demonise neighbours as assholes, and lots of them are. My current one's are fucking horrible, and I can't fucking take it much more. But I still have went over to try and talk about it, like an adult.
"What is an anonymous letter"
Yeah, when it has a statistically significant chance of ending up in your death, they do.
I dont know how you can recognize the problem with America, and still have the audacity to say such a bullshit line.
Its called common fucking sense. You know how loud you have your music, and you have some basic fucking decency to go "Oh shit" and turn it down. You are more than capable of enjoying music, in your own home, without bothering other people. I do it all the time. I dont need anyone to come banging on my door because I have consideration for them so they never have to.
Because you're exaggerating the issue, and the issue with Americans is exaggerating the risks of everything to justify having guns and invading other countries, which actually increase the problems you claim to try and avoid.
You don't know how loud it is. Having seen what sort of buildings you guys have, it really doesn't need to be loud to be audible to another apartment. Not everyone is bothered as easily as others. That's why it's important to let the people know.
An anonymous letter in this specific instance would definitely be the first choice. Honestly, what the hell is hacking the BT gonna do? Make them buy a new, possibly even louder speaker? How would they know it doesn't work because someone is annoyed at the level of noise in the morning?
Oh and you also read minds, so that you know for a fact that no-one is bothered by you clomping around to music they might hate, but they're not coming to say anything, because they think there's a "statistically significant" chance of getting murdered for doing it?
Ah yes, So you hate Americans so you are just going to be a cunt to anything and anyone related to America, and to justify that you are just going to straight up reply to your own imaginary conversations to justify it, since nothing I actually said would give you ground to say this shit.
Not even worth replying to the rest of your stupidity when your agenda is this obvious
Why would you say I "hate Americans"?
You live in a country that has a lot of issues and crime, yes, but as I always keep hearing in gun debates, "it's not most of the country". So are you really saying America is in such a state that trying to talk to a neighbour is too dangerous for anyone? That's horrible. I would help if I could. Which is for instance why I very often argue for reasonable gun control which would help with your situation.
And again, doesn't change that an anonymous letter informing someone that their morning music seems loud will work better than disconnecting a speaker.
The latter will only confuse the person who will fix the speaker connection or get a new one.
Dude, as an American it just sounds like you have an anti-everyone else hate and fear boner because you're antisocial, scared, and paranoid. The other dude is absolutely right that there are more civil and diplomatic ways that will be much more effective than not. At my girlfriend's last apartment there was a dude who lived below her her apartment who would occasionally play music really really loud. I had seen him openly carrying his pistol in the building. I went down there and knocked, and when he opened the door his gun was hip holstered and ready to be drawn. I just asked if he could turn down the music a bit as we were trying to sleep and he apologized and all was good. He turned down the music and there was no confrontation; he may like his music loud (as do I sometimes, my hearing can be bad at times) but sometimes we need a reminder to be considerate of others. You can argue we shouldn't need that reminder, but we're all human and to be human is to be fallible. At the end of the day, communication will always be the quickest way to solve a conflict or issue. It is only not an option when one or more sides refuses to cooperate in communication. But that's honestly not as common as you'd think and it doesn't help you nor anyone else if you immediately close that avenue of resolution.