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Image description: 4 panel Loading Artist comic. 1: Blue guy stands behind Red guy playing a game on the couch "oh it's a SINGLE-PLAYER game?". 2: Blue guy scoffs "no thanks. Single-player games feel too lonely". 3: Blue guy puts on gamer headset "that's why I only play MULTIPLAYER games". 4: Blue guy happily at his PC, while tweaking his game settings Voice Chat: OFF, Text Chat: OFF, Friend Requests: OFF.


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[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago

do you have any other examples of how they can interact and help you without talking, trading, or being able to do anything else than walk and crouch?

Players show intentions through actions.

You can turn off comms in FPSs and still communicate using game tactics. Smoke grenades to block off areas, laser pointers show where the player is looking, grenades to send sound signals, suppressing fire to block enemy players / signal your team to move.

Risk is an online game and players show their intentions through how they take their turns. What territories are they moving into, how far are they pushing, how are they fortifying at the end of their turn.

Chess has very common starting tactics that directly communicate the strategy they are going to employ. This is a type of communication without speaking.

These are all meaningful interactions, and are based purely on player agency within the game without comms.

The meme also says/implies all interactive settings are toggled off.

That’s not how I interpreted it. Interaction is more than verbal / written communication.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

You can turn off comms in FPSs and still communicate using game tactics. Smoke grenades to block off areas, laser pointers show where the player is looking, grenades to send sound signals, suppressing fire to block enemy players / signal your team to move.

Sorry, but in these cases you are ruining other people’s experiences so you can enjoy yours. You’re hampering them by being a handicap. There’s a reason why almost all people leave the lobby when one of these people show up.

Risk is an online game and players show their intentions through how they take their turns. What territories are they moving into, how far are they pushing, how are they fortifying at the end of their turn.

Strange example, there is zero interactions other than what you do yourself. You’re not playing with people, that’s against.

Chess is same as above, and clearly not the type of games the meme is referencing.

No one says they are playing “multi” player games, than playing 1v1 games. They would say I’m playing risk, chess, checkers, etc.

The meme shows the three most common MP settings being toggled, what else would it be refering to here?

[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago

You’re not playing with people, that’s against.

There is nothing in the comic that suggests co-op games only.

Competitive games require tactical interaction. Entities that are against each other are communicating with each other, even if they aren’t using words.

No one says they are playing “multi” player games, than playing 1v1 games.

I would. If there is more than one human player, it’s a multi player game.

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/multiplayerwww.dictionary.com/browse/multiplayerwww.collinsdictionary.com/…/multiplayer

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

There is nothing in the comic that suggests co-op games only.

No one has stated that.

Competitive games require tactical interaction. Entities that are against each other are communicating with each other, even if they aren’t using words.

Which is part of the game and why they are playing it… that’s not what the meme is referencing dude… if you have a toggle to remove that function, the game no longer exists, that’s obviously not what the meme is referencing… sure maybe if there is some 2v2 versions of those games you would “interact” with your partner, but you also just turned all those settings off, and now you can’t coordinate, and circles back to handicapping and ruining their experience….

I think the meaning of this comic just flew right over your head. That or you are trolling and intentionally twisting definitions.

No one calls chess or checkers multiplayer games dude.

[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago

No one calls chess or checkers multiplayer games dude.

Except for the three dictionary definitions I provided. 😆

Which is part of the game and why they are playing it… that’s not what the meme is referencing dude…

Yeah, that’s my original point. The comic is claiming that there is no communication in a multiplayer game when the voice and text chat is turned off. That a person can be “lonely” in a multiplayer game.

I’m claiming that there is still communication. I’m claiming that the comic’s premise is faulty.

but you also just turned all those settings off, and now you can’t coordinate,

I am arguing that it is possible to coordinate without voice or text chat.

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Except for the three dictionary definitions I provided. 😆

Go tell one of your friends you’re playing a multiplayer game and see the look they give you when you say it’s checkers…. It’s not how people talk, it is “technically” but no one actually calls it that…

Yeah, that’s my original point. The comic is claiming that there is no communication in a multiplayer game when the voice and text chat is turned off. That a person can be “lonely” in a multiplayer game.

No it never claimed no communication, interactions. Since you can’t communicate with anything in a SP game… did you forget this key detail…?

You missed the intent of the comic, it happens, not everyone understands everything.

I’m moving on from this, peace.

[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago

You missed the intent of the comic

Please explain, in detail, what you think the comic intends.

not everyone understands everything.

Again with the snide remark. Are you okay, dude? This isn’t that serious.

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