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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The left actually demands politicians earn their vote. Politics isn't supposed to be a team sport in the US. The entire reason we have elections so often is to make sure the voters approve of their representatives. That means voting out of team loyalty is a subversion of the system. And the charge of being fickle and lazy is undemocratic propaganda.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago

Democracy is about compromise. By refusing to compromise you're ceding power to the worst option.

[-] kvartsdan@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 8 months ago

Why is the compromise always to be a good little voter and vote for us regardless of the heinous shit we're up to cuz the other option is Hitler wins? That isn't a compromise. A compromise is when both sides give up something they want. What have the dems given up? Said that Israel has maybe gone a little bit too far? Whoopty-fucking-do.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Why is the compromise always to be a good little voter and vote for us regardless of the heinous shit we’re up to cuz the other option is Hitler wins?

I mean you laid it out right there

[-] 5in1k@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

I’m tired of compromising with people who won’t compromise. We just lurch to the right over and over whenever there’s a fight. They never worry about compromising with me ever.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

That's democracy. When a large portion of voters want fascism, you have to compromise with fascists.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Compromise requires both sides. And supplying a genocide isn't compromise.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago

"Not genocide" is not an option.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

It is. Biden can stop providing arms to Israel.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

And how are you gonna make him do that?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

Voting uncommitted. Showing force. If Biden wants votes, he needs to not commit genocide.

I'll still vote for him most likely, even if he is a disgusting warmonger, because I know Trump is worse. However, I want him to see the magnitude of hatred the Americans he thought he could rely on for votes have for him and his genocidal antics.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Now he's caught between your current hatred and the potential hatred of moderate Dems if he stops supporting Israel. And moderate Dems are more numerous and more consistent voters.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Not with that attitude it's not. It is possible. There is a world in which Biden proves he can still be pressured into doing the right thing.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago
[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago
[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Be more specific please. Pressure him how?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Look at the article.

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