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My wife is looking for diet/ health camps. I swear, every fucking place she brings to me is in the most dangerous places in the world for a solo woman. India was one, remote Mexico another. Every single one has had lvl 2 or worse travel advisories. I think the only one that didn't was Albania, which just had rampant organized crime and sex trafficking.
It's like she's trying to speed run "victim in a very obviously dangerous place"
This is perhaps a bit unsolicited so feel free to disregard, but in my experience this kind of fat camp nonsense doesn’t really help long term. The only thing that can do that for her is to address her everyday dietary habits and level of exercise.
The hardest thing about getting thin is staying thin outside the first burst of motivation.
Yup, I agree. Doesn't stop her from wanting it, though.
Sometimes working on one's mental health can go a long way towards improving aspects of physical health like weight issues. I'm almost positive that there will be a lot of places with the same problems, but there might be mental health/meditation retreats in safer areas. I'm pretty sure there's at least a few that will take their patrons out to the Redwood forests in California and plop them down in the nice environment with some solitude for self-contemplation. (I attended such a thing a decade and a half ago, but I don't know if it's still there.)
Yeah, that's really what she's after. She wants a reset on her emotional state which is leading to bad eating habits. She has had a lot of stress and grief, so it's understandable.
It helps for a time, but she obviously gradually picks up her bad habits again. Personally, I wish she would choose something more affordable / sustainable like hobbies she can escape into frequently. I've tried helping her find something, with or without me, but nothing has stuck, and this is how she wants to "solve" her problem again.
A social hobby that gets her out of the house might be the ticket here. Maybe look into your local community centers and whatnot to see if there's something like a couples dance class that you could do together or yoga classes. Having ways to socialize that are not food-centric goes a long ways towards building better habits.
The thing those intensive programs are good at is doing a dietary reset, so that you can somewhat get used to eating healthy amounts of healthy stuff.
Saying that they only thing that helps is adressing the everyday dietary habits sounds really pretentious, really. That's the hard part, it's really hard to change habits gradually for a lot of people, since dietary issues are almost like an addiction for them. Cutting cold turkey for a while and then reintroducing normal food slowly is a very effective way for some people to adresss their daily dietary habits.
I literally could not control myself while eating for a long while, whatever dish, Pringles bag, fries bag I opened, I finished it on a single go. Whenever I was bored, I told myself that I would eat one or two, and suddenly it was empty. It's really frustrating because I really was trying not to, and I tried so many times to gradually lessen the stuff I ate, count calories, whatever. It's all moot. What actually helped me was doing a very intensive process for a week that helped me reset my eating habits, then began eating only healthy stuff, and forced myself to find healthy stuff that I found tasty too.
Basically, those programs do have a function to exist.
You realize "in my experience" means I have done it myself? And let me tell you they are nice and good to drop a few kilos in a structured and supervised environment.
Afterwards you are right back in your normal routine, and there you need to make the actual change happen. Permanently changed eating habits and frequent physical exertion.
If you can’t do that no fat camp in the world helps you long term.
Well, it's true that they don't help in the long term by themselves, but they are a huge help to headstart a change in routine.
You don't need to tell me, as I said in my comment, I too did an intensive program and in helped me reroute my routine. It might help that since I needed to down 30kg there was no way in hell I'd do that in a week, so I focused on what I already wrote in the last comment.
All I wanted to say in my last comment is that they are good to reset a routine so that you can start getting new habits for the upcoming marathon.
Not just sex trafficking, human trafficking in general, also includes e.g. men being forced to work on Greek farms. Plenty of political will to crack down on it but Albania isn't exactly in a state to throw tons of money at any problem.
Realistically speaking the risk as as foreigner is approximately zero, you're much, much more likely to have your pockets picked or caravan broken into. Which might be less likely in say Denmark but also not exactly unheard of. The breaking in part, that is, pickpockets are rampant in any crowded touristy place in Europe.
They're actually close to EU accession but it's tied to that of North Macedonia (because lots of ethnic Albanians in North Macedonia and noone wants to create a mass exodus) and while the beef with Greece has been fixed and the beef with Bulgaria is getting dealt with it'll still take a while. Big-issue items but OTOH it's all ancient history, think about Germany and France getting into a spat because one wants to have Charlemagne all for themselves. Generally a good idea to address that kind of baggage before EU accession which is exactly why states force those issues with their veto but meanwhile Albania is sitting there on the door sill, rolling their eyes while freezing in the cold.
That's right, human trafficking, not specifically sex trafficking. Remembered that wrong.
I think the place was pretty rural too, like 1-1.5h from the airport. Seemed extremely dicey to me, even if, as you say, tourists probably won't be bothered.
Assuming you’ve brought up the danger the first or second time she found something, how is she still picking dangerous locations?
She thinks she's invulnerable because she traveled alone a lot in her 20s. And she's looking for affordable retreats, which unsurprisingly means outside of touristy areas.
i love ignoring travel advisors your wife seems cool