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[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This isn't barbarism.

War is barbarism, and we Americans have voted for more warmongering than our next ten competing countries combined. Please keep pretending we're the good guys while our country is going on eight years of aiding Saudi Arabia in starving Yemen.

[-] fades@beehaw.org 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Huh?????

Russia bombs civvies

you: b-b-but what about

From the article:

a missile strike on a historic cathedral – one that was consecrated by the patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church, no less, killing one and hospitalizing fourteen

Sounds barbaric to me, as is all other terrorism

[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Russia bombs civvies

So do we and our allies. How familiar are you with US' warmongering?

[-] fades@beehaw.org 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am quite familiar. America is not innocent.

How does America being a war mongering monster have anything to do with Russia missile striking innocent civilians in a nation they promised to protect. A sovereign nation being ground into meat, but none of that is barbaric because the US and CIA loved the fuck out of proxy wars and coups?

Take your whataboutism somewhere else.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How does America being a war mongering monster have anything to do with Russia missile striking a nation they promised to protect.

It's relevant in that we, as a nation that vote for the world's foremost war machine every two years, shouldn't be pretending to be a moral authority. (At least, not until we're willing to hold ourselves accountable.)

Also, the block button is there if you don't like what you see.

[-] fades@beehaw.org 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You started this thread by saying it’s not barbarism and then started talking about America’s sins.

That has nothing to do with the topic at hand, they both are true, but you are specifically using whataboutism to shift from Russian barbarism. Why? Why is terrorism and missile striking not barbaric? Why is that unimportant and that instead you feel we must look towards America?

Why are you so quick to shift the topic from current Russian aggression against an innocent nation (the topic of the post) to the past of the West?

Since you need the help:

Whataboutism is a type of logical fallacy that occurs when a person attempts to divert the focus away from the current issue by making a counter-accusation

Yes I know I can block you but I have no problem continuing this discussion. :)

[-] EeeDawg101@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago
[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

Who's "we", kemosabe? The literal country of America isn't participating in this thread. Individuals are. Many probably aren't from America at all.

[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago

Well said. I'm so done with Americans acting like the whole world revolves around them.

[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 year ago

"we" Please understand that not everyone on the internet is American and that your country isn't the center of the world.

Also, the block button is there if you don’t like what you see.

Done and done. Thanks for making lemmy a great space with intelligent discourse. 🙄

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