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[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago

When I’m driving I absolutely don’t want to dig through non-tactile menus just so I can adjust the climate or turn on my heated seat.

Look at Mr. Fancypants over here who can afford a heated seat subscription.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

lmao I wish. I'd fucking never support that kind of behaviour. I don't have a car, but my roomie has a VW Golf with subscriptionless heated seats.

I happen to have a pretty decent inside view into the whole "heated seats" bullshit too. See, I used to work for a company that did a lot of work for Stellantis. You literally can't fathom just how much administrative bullshit work goes into the customisation of packages and spec sheets. It's a constantly ongoing thing, thousands of man hours are wasted on it. Things change between markets, and in some markets it affect insurance levels and whatnot, so there's just so much underlying complexity beyond "oh I want a red car with heated seats." I've legit no idea how it came to be as complicated as it is, but it's mindfuckingly idiotic. When I left I believe Stellantis was working on replacing the system with their own, but I somehow doubt that it's an improvement.

They are saving incredible amounts of money by flat out removing options and having them unlocked through a subscription fee. Lots of work is removed just from an administrative view, nevermind the fact that the manufacturing chain gets streamlined and money is saved there too.

On top of that, you're paying for the seat, it's not like they're including features out of the kindness of their hearts, you're paying for all of the hardware, and then they're trying to pretend like they're doing you a favour by letting you "pay for it when you need it." It's 100% a scam, and the EU isn't going to do shit about it because among the perps are some of the most valuable German companies, and they happen to hold the German government by their balls.

[-] Bloodyhog@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

The benefit of unified hardware and not having subscriptions can be easily combined: just replace subscriptions with a one-off charge for any feature. Warranty void if enabled not in a dealer shop. I think that would create much less noise than offering a monthly sub. Yes, I know, not great for the quarterly results, but then - so much less hate from your customers. And yes, touch screens in a car should wait until there is a full, proper self-driving capability in place.

[-] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

The fact that a heated seat subscription idea didn't completely end the consumer market for the manufacturers attempting it shows us that too few people are awake to impact their income. The manufacturer will do whatever they want, including recording every possible thing they are able to inside the vehicle.

[-] Bloodyhog@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I am afraid you are right. Am driving a non-connected old car, and intend to buy a new one without that crap.

I do struggle to understand why the general population is so untroubled with this constant privacy breaching creep (a bit less worried with subs as when it comes to monies, people are a bit more alert). I have a lot of smart friends who click the "agree to everything you want from me" button everywhere, and they see no issue with it.

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