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Trump Backs Israel Bombarding Gaza: 'Gotta Finish the Problem'
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And people think Democrats will ~~vote on~~ support Trump because Biden won't denounce Israel...
It's at least in part Russian propaganda. They don't want people to vote for Trump, they do want democratic voters to not vote at all, which will help Trump get elected.
Look at the people pushing the 'genocide Joe' thing. Invariably they're anti-NATO and make excuses for Iran, Syria and Russia. Not that they're doing it deliberately, but plenty seem to have bought the propaganda and are acting like useful idiots by spreading it.
you're making this up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russias-alleged-election-meddling-tactics-is-2024-already-compromised/ar-BB1iXPOs
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-intelligence-report-alleging-russia-election-interference-shared-with-100-2023-10-20/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression
none of your links support a claim that russia is using the conflict in israel to favor one candidate or another.
What many of us imagine is that it's bad when either nation does this.
Yes, it is hypocritical for most US politicians to criticize Russia's interference in US elections, but it's not incorrect.
It certainly isn't wrongthink for those of us who have little influence on what alphabet agencies do to complain about it happening just because it's happening elsewhere, too.
That's a non sequitur at best.
suck my balls
Another non sequitur, and in any case not what I said (nor implied, unless you read my reply in bad faith).
Thank you for explaining what your point was, but it's absolutely a non sequitur. My original point was about the validity of criticizing something because it's happening by more than one bad actor. Not quibbling about whether an small part of my statement ("little influence") is 100% correct or not. My point wasn't about litigating whether or not the US is a democracy, so: it was a non sequitur.
That said, it's clearly a waste of time to engage with you, because if you're going to be bent out of shape for being "accused" of a non sequitur and then start calling me "a schlub that lives in a fascist empire", then you don't have the temperament to actually fight a fascist empire. Some of us do more than vote and complain online.
Imagine banning people from your stonercringe community because they said you shouldn't drive high
no one is threatening to vote for Trump because of biden's genocidal proclivities. since nobody's doing that, none of them can be Russian agents. you made this up.
Since reading is hard:
Way to ignore the entire point of the person you responded to.
i'm not ignoring it. i'm challenging it.
Sorry, I wasn't aware that you were "challenging it" by ignoring the actual point and making up something else to respond to. My mistake, I'll have to learn alternative definitions for words.
the actual point is that they claimed there is a russian campaign to help trump's performance in november on the basis of biden's support for genocide. there is no evidence for this.
Just like there was no evidence during the 2016 or 2020 campaigns, but surely they've changed this election. If only there were any evidence of it happening this round, I'm sure you'd change your mind.
I mean, could you imagine if they had tried to drum up charges against the president's family by getting an asset to be believed as a credible witness in a case against his family? Or if they were putting out deep fakes to make people think Biden said something he never did?
that's not the claim that's being made or to which i'm objecting. i'm objecting to the characterization of leftists as russian propagandists.
this is innuendo. there is a specific claim being made about people who are objecting to joe's genocide, and that claim simply isn't supported by any evidence. your innuendo is slander.
Thanks for proving you're a bad faith actor, you clearly didn't even bother to read even a single link I posted that showed evidence.
Bye friend, I'm not dealing with your goalpost moving bs any longer
my position hasn't changed at all.
your links were provided above. your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith