485
Systemd controversy be like (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 8 months ago by loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
147 comments fedilink hide all child comments
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 47 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Poettering and Systemd are amazing and Linux would not be as good as it is today without them. Whether you like it or not, we can't have a fragmented ecosystem and expect people and companies to adopt it (see the 14 competing standards XKCD). Having one solid base that works the same on every client is like literally the base requirement for making a product for the said client. Systemd, flatpak, xdg-portals, pipewire and immutable distros all solve this.

[-] zephr_c@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

Here's my hot take: I don't care what operating system most people use. If people are happy on Windows, let them stay on Windows. That's not my problem. When you say we need to make Linux less diverse and interesting to make number go up because more biggerer number more gooderer then suddenly that is my problem. You are trying to make my experience worse for the sake of something I do not care about.

There is nothing wrong with systemd. Most people on Linux are using it, and that's fine. Options are good too though. I specifically like Linux because it's NOT a bunch of homogeneous lowest common denominator sameyness. That's the very thing I don't want.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago

The thing with Linux is you can use it however you want

[-] dukatos@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ironically, pipewire is built to replace pulseaudio.

[-] stinerman@midwest.social 5 points 8 months ago

Which was built because of the limitations of ALSA.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Immutable distros are never going to catch on as they are to complex.

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Abstraction seems like the next step for them after the underlying systems mature out.

[-] the_third@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago

We're in the process of starting to use them in production, once your understand the concepts and implement a proper buildchain they solve a lot of problems, especially when it comes to verified system integrity and a|b updating.

this post was submitted on 07 Mar 2024
485 points (96.5% liked)

linuxmemes

21240 readers
17 users here now

Hint: :q!

Sister communities:

Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack members of the community for any reason.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry will not be tolerated.
  • These rules are somewhat loosened when the subject is a public figure. Still, do not attack their person or incite harrassment.
    • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn. Even if you watch it on a Linux machine.
    • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.

    • Please report posts and comments that break these rules!

    founded 1 year ago
    MODERATORS
    poopsmith@lemmy.world
    zephyr@lemmy.world
    rtxn@lemmy.world