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I'm lucky my banking app works (GrapheneOS), as it's now requiring 2FA with the app anytime I login on the browser. Can't use an actually secure form like TOTP. At least they now allow passwords over 8 characters (yes, serious).

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[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

This is actually something I have spent a lot of time thinking about. In Sweden, where my boyfriend lives, their BankID app is ubiquitous, and there is very little cash handling going on, additionally the fees for actually going to the bank or subsidiary to pay your bills are exorbitant.

Everybody pays their bills online using "BankID", which is kinda nifty and works well enough if a single point of failure is your thingaling, but what if people simply choose not to get a phone, or don't want a computer, just basic like that, what if?

It feels kind of creepy to me, I don't know...

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Don't you have a code generator?

In Norway we gave 3 options. BankID by code generator, BankID by simcard, and BankID by app.

The code generator isn't even connected to the internet, and is the oldest type of bankid

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

This is true, but almost nobody uses it- Mobile BankID is the ubiquitous app for that, and while there still is the possibility, not all sites accept it. Not to mention, this still requires a computer, and while you may be inclined to say that "well there are always libraries", you cannot install third party software on their computers, and they do NOT carry BankID application (because of course not). This is true for social services as well.

The real fear is the fact that once everything goes digital - and it will - everybody is at the mercy of finance and the ability to procure a telephone, and or a computer, and or an internet connection (all SIM cards have to be registered with national identification before the state, adding to the problem of how you would identify yourself in the first place in lieu of such capabilities or possibilities).

Neither having a phone or a computer is considered a human right yet, as far as I know, and in either case the state is not obligated to provide you with one regardless.

May seem like nitpicking, but that is what lawmaking and jurisprudence is all about.

[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago
[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Sweden has gone about 80% fascist, in case you didn't know. By popular vote, even! We have literal Nazis in government right now, they're the second largest party, and while "not all Swedes" agree that they are Nazis, their heritage and lineage stems directly from the neo-Nazi movement in Sweden in the 80's and 90's, supported financially by Putin. <- this is not a joke, btw

All SIM cards have to be registered with your personal identification number (more or less "social security number", but with your 100% full identifiable personal information), by law, and by law it is illegal not to state where you live (like a census law, you must report to authorities at all times where you reside. If you don't have a home, well, your last address is where you officially live).

The right wing extremists have pumped money into police, and they now have the right to effect stop-and-frisk zones, and wiretapping anyone they please without probable cause or even suspicion of criminal activity.

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