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Previously on Lemmy: Sony
Past Discussions:
I thought we should restart the brand discussion with something more popular to give this community relaunch a bit more oomph. So, Samsung it is.
I've never really used a Samsung phone much before, despite them being so popular in the States. Have friends who used them, they usually look nice and high quality, and the Galaxy S Active are the only high-end phones I know that doesn't shatter when you look at them wrong without a case, so, props to Samsung.
There are may reasons I don't like Samsung phones: Hardware fuse disabling Knox on bootloader unlock, Exynos vs Snapdragon models, the mandatory Bixby button, the Galaxy Note 7 that really blew up. To me, Samsung phones are trying so hard to go against what makes Android good, which is the customizability to do whatever you wanted. Android is everything; Samsung is just Samsung.
Personally, I think Samsung is only worth buying at the very high end for the Galaxy S series. I've heard that A series have gotten better, but there always seems to be better choices from Moto/Pixel/Chinese brands on Amazon that it's not worth considering their low tier offering.
What should we do next week? I'm thinking Microsoft, just to make fun of them for the very idea of making a Surface Duo 2.
FAQ:
Re. the Mag-Stripe. Bare in mind the US is <10% of the market for the Samsung phones. And then you'd need to break down of the Samsung phones sold in North America - how many of those were S-series vs. the others which don't support the mag-stripe. Even if 50-50, that's now <5% of phones which have mag-stripe support in a country that uses it. Then rough guess of 20% of users actually pay by phone? You're now <1%. A small pale blue dot in the vast cosmic arena...
SD cards - there's also the point of user data security. Data stored on an SD card can't be easily guarenteed safe by Knox. Yes, you can encrypt it, but remove that SD card and the card itself can't protect the data from brute forcing encyption keys.
Wasn't Samsung holding ~30% share in the US? I was trying to find more concrete numbers, but Google isn't Google anymore. What I could find says that North America is their #1 revenue producing region, which leads me to believe that the majority of their revenue is coming from their S series. This is conjecture, but absent more public data, it's what logically makes sense to me. And since the US is the major market to not be on universal contactless payment systems, I would assume would benefit it's customers the most.
SD Card - The consumer has about as much control as trusting their data to cloud storages or even at-home NAS or hard drive set ups. They could get robbed, or they could have another daily data breach somewhere. Safety with your SD card contains similar risks. And like you said in your other response to another user, Samsung already mines your data, Knox or not. So why not include an SD card, so that people can save $200 on storage teirs (corporate greed aside)? If the hacker really wants my SD card data anyways, they'll get to indulge in my vast library of audiobooks, podcasts, music, movies, and files that would make absolutely no sense to them, even if they were corporate spies. So congrats to them. Pictures and videos would be painful to let them peruse, but that could be said about any stolen phone or data breach.
You misunderstood. The US is <10% of Samsung phone sales globally (I found retail sales online for their handset sales per country) . And they will know the stats of which of those phones ever used the magstripe feature. An educated guess of <1% of global users activating the mag stripe feature is a feature they can afford to cut, especially if it saves on cost.