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That Lando jump start (www.planetf1.com)

“The stewards reviewed positioning/marshalling system data, video and determined that the video appeared to show that Car 4 moved before the start signal was given,” their report began.

“However, the FIA approved and supplied transponder fitted on the car did not indicate a jump start.

“Article 48.1 a) of the Formula One Sporting Regulations states clearly that the judgment of whether or not there was a jump start is to be made in accordance with the transponder, which did not show a jump start. In the circumstances, we took no further action

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[-] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

So if the transponder is faulty(hypothetically) or just not sensitive enough, does that mean people will get away with false starts¿?

[-] june@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That appears to be the case.

He jumped, clear as day, but the transponder didn’t reflect that so he got no penalty.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

You don't know when it's faulty, so no.

[-] june@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Doesn’t answer the question lol

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It does. He asked if people will "get away with it". They won't. 99.99999% it will work correctly. Nobody is going to test it / risk it.

[-] june@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The question was ‘if it’s faulty will people get away with it’.

You answered ‘you don’t know if it’s faulty’

That is not the answer to the question. The question that answers is ‘can you game the system with a faulty transponder’.

The answer to the question is actually yes. If the transponder is faulty the driver will get away with a jumpstart.

[-] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

No as in there won't be a penalty or no as in there will be a penalty¿?

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

If it's faulty, you don't know that it is. Which means you can't reliably use that.

[-] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And that is what i am trying to highlight through my question. The rule is enforced completely based on the transponder but if its malfunctioning then drivers will not be penalized as the the transponder has not picked up their jump start.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[-] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

That the rule having no flexibility is stupid. It is obvious from the videos that Norris jumped the start but because the rules are based purely on the signals from the transponder, he has escaped punishment.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So instead they should make up a rule on the spot that wasn't in the rules previously to punish them

[-] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I am not saying lando should be punished. I am saying that the rule should be reviewed and updated for the future to handle cases technology cannot/ fails to handle.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Then you end up with unfeasible rulebooks that cover every minute detail. And then something unexpected pops in, because of course it always does.

The reality of it is - false starts are rare. A broken transponder is rare. Getting both are very unlikely, and ultimately on the ones making them instead of the team.

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