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[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

I mean, honestly, the phenomena in the book were surprisingly plausible.

Obviously the movie took some liberties here and there, either out of necessity or purely for style, but pretty much everything in the book at least has some semblance of a connection to our current understanding of science.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

I don't think seeing into the future using drugs and the crazy women cult with power to control people with their voice was really aiming for scientific accuracy.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

Best part where they had genetic memories from after the genes were passed.

[-] jdnewmil@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

The books went to some pains to convey that memories after birth were not passed along. Haven't watched this flick though.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

No, they weren't going to any lenght to show that, iirc Leto II and some BG admitted to have memories of many deaths, which would be impossible if those were genetic memories. The only one who legitly could have those was the last Duncan since he was ghola made from the amalgam of genetic material from many previous gholas, and even in his case it was explicitly said he had memories he shouldn't have.

It's just magic.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Which is still complete bollocks, of course. Your genes don’t get continually updated with memory data while you’re alive, or even change at all.

Stay off the drugs, Frank.

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

The Bene Gesserit control people by knowing how to modulate their voice to trigger people's base instincts. Like, that instinct that tells you to run when you hear a tiger's roar, or shiver when you hear a whisper. It's just that, cranked up to 11. Iirc, they can only really use the Voice on a person after having studied them to find what they will react to (or if they happen to be particularly weak-willed).

As for seeing the future: Computers were replaced with humans long ago in Dune, but they continued to fill and develop those niches with the human mind. Future-sight is essentially like a supercomputer running a simulation, which is why Paul is able to see the future better when he takes spice, or the Water of Life. By gaining the latent genetic knowledge of his ancestors and thereby having more data to work from, he is better able to run these mental simulations.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

The explanations were thorough and fun (in my opinion), just not the most scientific. But I think Dune, like star wars, was always more of a space opera than hard scifi. It definitely does a better job, but if your looking for a better "predict the future with data" scifi story, then foundation is a better fit from that era.

[-] billgamesh@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Foundation is awesome. It also has a very fun BBC radio drama on archive.org

[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

latent genetic knowledge of his ancestors

Oh so complete fantasy

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

Well, yeah, it's a fiction novel.

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