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Yet if you look at the neighboring countries, it's better in almost every way.
I say "almost" because there could be some minor ways that some neighbor surpasses them.
Except that Jordan is peaceful and in the Arabian/Gulf countries the government takes care of you instead of eradicating you...
“Respects human rights as long as you’re the right kind of human” is hardly something to be proud of
If you don't have human rights for a land's native population; you are a country that infringes on human rights. It's very simple. Plus, Palestine is a secular nation and it borders other secular nations like Lebanon (well at least the region of Palestine does). Unlike the country that believes in "old testament justice."
Even in Jordan, which is NOT a secular country, as long as you don't display physical affection in public (which is frowned upon on all groups) you'll be fine. I have even heard of white gay people moving to Amman because they said the people there mind their own business (I can't find the link to this anymore).
Palestinians live under Israeli Occupation and 50 years of dispossession. Palestinians are denied civil rights and subject to Military Court
At the mercy of Settler Violence, Torture and Abuse in Interrogations, have No freedom of movement, and also denied Water stolen and extorted by the occupying forces.
Palestinian Labor is also heavily exploited as they have no workers rights either: Haaretz, MEE, 972, CMEC
Gaza is under control by Israel's Blockade which is still internationally recognized as Occupation.
Let's take a look at the history of Arab Israelis within Israel proper. First, after the 1948 ethnic cleansing, the remaining Palestinian population within the new Israel were subject to Israel Martial Law and Defence (Emergency) Regulations, later practiced in the occupied territories after 1967.
Even today Arab Israelis are discriminated against as second class citizens including Education (2001 report).
Not nearly as brutal as Palestinians living in East Jerusalem, the West Bank, or Gaza, but they all live under Israeli Military Control. This is Apartheid, by international definitions.
Three main international treaties prohibit and/or explicitly criminalize apartheid: the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD), the International Convention on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid (Apartheid Convention) and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (Rome Statute).
Amnesty lays this out very well in the first chapter of its report.
Amnesty International Report
Human Rights Watch Report
B'TSelem Report with quick Explainer
Yes, that's the point of the apartheid. Glad we agree.
Here's a small fraction of just the summary of the Amnesty report. If you want details you will have to read it. Otherwise I do know of some videos that lay it out too.
Only if you make up your own definitions, ignore the multiple international definitions of Apartheid, and the reality of the occupation..
The Occupied Palestinian Territories are occupied..
I provided links for everything, no need take my word for it.
Yeah, because Israel doesn't treat the West Bank and Gaza as trash.
Gay parides aren't enough for me to consider Israelis humanitarians. Though it's nice they allow gay people to adopt.
Edit: Ok, I think I replied to the wrong post.
If you can't see that treating 10 to 15 million people is wrong (literally raping children) I don't see why you are discussing the few gay couples with kids. What exactly is objectively better. Even before this October crap, at least one Palestinian child died per hour.
Rojava is right there.
Like, not being actively engaged in a genocide.