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[-] SamVergeudetZeit@feddit.de 20 points 8 months ago

Yeah tourism has to cool down. Spain, Italy and france are bursting.

[-] Anekdoteles@feddit.de 22 points 8 months ago

Isn't it everywhere? I think this is another strong indicator of how we need new cities that are fostered a little less to generating profit and instead to generating quality value for the people living there. If so, tourism would change automatically.

[-] SamVergeudetZeit@feddit.de 21 points 8 months ago

Oh absolutely and probably also not a hot take. Ban AirBnb and vacation flats in cities. The Prague city centre during covid was a ghost town, because of all the AirBnbs in the city. Regular citizens get priced out and the vacancy rate is high.

[-] Anekdoteles@feddit.de -2 points 8 months ago

I'm not even sure if AirBnb per se is a problem. Depends on the time frame, we're talking about. If they are used for below two weeks they are just better hotels, but as a multiple months accommodation for nomads interested in being part of the city and making meaningful connections - why not?

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Here's why not: Because too much vacancies/transient inhabitants destroys communities.

A lot of shops etc depend on local customers. If there is too small a consumer base, these shops disappear starting a cycle that is detrimental to the neighborhood.

This separated from the assholes that drag their airport suitcases with hard plastic wheels across the pavement at all hours. Have weekday keg parties and all sorts of other shenanigans. Neighborhoods are for living, hotels and other accomodations are permitted for a reason.

The way it all started was people with a spare bedroom, which is fine. Then the residents will make sure that people behave and that the airBnB'ers behave.

[-] Anekdoteles@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

Here’s why not: Because too much vacancies/transient inhabitants destroys communities.

But that's precisely what I meant? If they are rented out for at least a couple of months, so that you can grow into a community. Why not?

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Ah like that, I did not read your point like that.

But then it's rental is it not? Renters have a lot of laws governing them, and slumlord should not get to bypass those by using airBnB.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Oh please, rents were increasing higher than wages for decades now, taking even bigger chunk of the pay of regular people. And Airbnb and Booking in tourist/business hotspots are to blame to a large extent for that.

[-] Anekdoteles@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That's at least an easy explanation, but it totally fails at answering the question as to why it became so much more beneficial to just own money instead of selling work for it in the recent decades. AirBnB has nothing to do with that.

[-] SamVergeudetZeit@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago

But building new cities is expensive and takes a long time. You can reduce tourism faster.

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