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The needs of Israel outweigh the Netanyahu.
Him trying to doggedly ‘crush’ Hamas (an impossible goal politically) whilst refusing to see the larger picture is an outstanding dereliction of duty to the country as a whole
The northern border is increasingly heating up with Hezbollah targeting IDF bases directly and with larger ordnance - in a few months it has progressed from lowly ATGMs and 80s tech, to Grad and Burkan rocket artillery. There’s now more frequent attacks on northern towns and settlements because of their increasing firepower brought in
International condemnation is widespread, your neighbors to the east and south are publicly taking about ‘changes in security treaties’ with Israel and threatening unilateral action, an ICJ judgment that is sustained into war crimes investigations, and top US official and leaders are talking about ‘red lines’ and implicitly threatening continuing US military aid - that’s a big problem.
Even if you accept the ‘4D chess’ angle that Bibi is dealing with ~~Iran~~ Hamas completely to remove that threat before taking care of ~~Iran~~ Hezbollah, that ignores the global reality that the world, not just the Arab/Islamic world, isn’t going to sit by and let you ignore ~2 million Palestinians, today or tomorrow.
Israel is totally capable of winning the battle against Hamas, no doubt. But by doing so they will loose the wider war, isolate themselves politically, and make their own survival harder without friendly nations in a rough neighborhood.
Netanyahu only sharpened the resolve of the Palestinian public. He banned peaceful protest, he punished Palestinians for boycotts or asking the UN for help. He sidelined moderates and undermined the PA. When you get rid of moderates and nonviolent protest, you can’t be surprised when people turn to violence.
The 2018-2019 nonviolent protests in Gaza that the Israeli military fired on and killed 226.
Israel creates racist apartheid laws and illegally starved Gazans in a blockade and you’re mad that people nonviolently broke some of those laws in an attempt to demand their human rights?
Human rights violations and unjust imprisonment of an entire population are not something anyone should be expected to just “obey.” Next you’ll be telling me Jews were breaking laws when they tried to escape the Warsaw ghetto.
No. Israel pulled its settlements out of Gaza but they land and sea blockaded it since 2007 and turned it into an open air prison and kept bombing it. Israel controls all the borders, including the Egypt crossings due to their treaty with Egypt that allows them veto power over who can cross from Egypt.
Egypt is a dictatorship that mistreats minorities, if you want to compare Israel favorably to them then be my guest.
Under a 2007 agreement between Egypt and Israel, Egypt controls the crossing but imports through the Rafah crossing require Israeli approval.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/15/rafah-border-crossing-could-egypt-open-it-to-fleeing-palestinians
https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/israel-gaza-rafah-border-open-crossing-egypt-explain-war-palestine-hamas/article67437358.ece
Based on what are you saying this? Are you trying to make it sound like there is something inherently wrong with Gazans? Genetically maybe? Or are you trying to imply that Egypt's attempt to prevent a Nakba 2.0 is somehow actually just a reflection of this weird ass racist trend?
If Israel puts people in an open air prison then bombs the shit out of them so hard that everyone starts calling Bibi Hitler, then how is this the fault of Gazans?
Unless I detect racism of course. That smug "smart" racism with the whole "iM jUsT sAyIng" attitude?
It would be better for everyone if you would refrain from beating around this bush.
Is it a simple fact or is it some BS you pulled out of your behind?
Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait, etc.
But your point is still wrong..
Don't squirm around like that. Live up to the shit yoy say.
Uprising or not, it still cpntradicts your claim about how no country took them in. No point changing goalposts. Your claim wss falsw, just admit it.
Every one of those countries has Palestinian refugees (I am one of them). Jordan may be a shithole, but they never rejected Palestinian refugees even after all the business with the freedom fighters.
You are trying to twist this. Why should they go anywhere???? Their fucking home is Gaza and Palestine. Egypt knows that if Israel ethnically cleanses Palestinians again, they will never be able to return. So please, stop twisting and turning. There is nothing wrong with Gazans or Pallestinians, and honestly any claim otherwise just stinks or racism.
What if I asked myself this question about Jews??? Would that be acceptable to you?
If not, then why on earth would it be acceptable to me?
It doesn't mean they are leaving forever? Lmfao.
Then why am I not in an apartment in Tel Aviv now (where my father's family was ethnically cleansed from during the Nakba)??
Edit: seriously, I'd like an answer. Why was the fucking ethnic cleansing of my family never fixed? Why did I never have the right tp return? And how would you gurantee this to Gazans?
Ah thanks, so I should settle simply because Israel is unwilling to make amends or fix annything. Got it. /s
Right, so how would you gurantee a right of return for Gazans? They would be idiots to leave given Israel's history of ethbic cleansing and land theft.
Right... I really wonder where you get this nonsense from.
But no, Israel is the one who would prevent them from returning, just like it prevented every single one of my grandparents and their families from every returning.
... Now I am sure you ar a troll.
This is such a pathetic excuse, not to mention just a parrot point of pro-Zionist racists.
So they left Gaza, and yet they control every fucking thing that goes in and out?? Looks like they just left so they can keep making this pathetic point while still cutting off water and electricity whenever they feel like it.
Get that head out of that ass please.
Dude, smuggling.
If Israel didn't control so much, it would not have been able to block aid and water and electricity and internet with ease.
Because that state is the one at war with them... they stole their lands, displaced them, and bombed them every few years for resisting colonialism and invasion.
You would not find it acceptable to live under thr rule of an occupier, so why should I as a Palestinian?
I don't know how being an apartheid state all the time for 75+ years then refusing a two state solution can be considered a democratic legal state...
You make it sound like Palestinians are dogs fed by Israelis... if you colonize a nation, you are obliged to provide for them. If Israel doesn't want Gazans to be "reliant" on their "generous donations" of food and water, they should not have sieged them and abused them day in and day out.
And yet Jews in America in 1936 were like:
Palestinian identity existed all along. They would have gotten independence like Jordan or any other distinct group around them.
Instead, the Nakba happened. I wonder why...