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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by puff@hexbear.net to c/movies@hexbear.net

It's like someone asked ChatGPT to turn the book into a dumb anglo sitcom.

-Every character is emotionally immature, spiteful, and sassy. None of the 'friends' act like friends. None of the characters talk like real people. They're constantly insulting or hitting each other. It's just embarrassing. The actors have nothing to work with.

-All the major twists/reveals are shown in the first two episodes. No suspense, no build-up, no pay-off. Rushed is an understatement.

-Single characters from the book have been unnecessarily split into multiple new characters adding nothing to the story.

-The story is a cosmic horror but comedy and romance have been forced in for no reason whatsoever except as filler, which is even more mind-boggling because they've essentially rushed all of the good stuff in the book to make room for unfunny jokes.

-Apparently they could barely afford any sets and extras, so scenes and locations that are supposed to be bristling with sights and people just feel oddly empty. Even the special effects feel muted. The budget is just weirdly limited, and the show looks much cheaper than the Tencent series.

-Almost all of the science (which is the interesting stuff) has been gutted from this science fiction.

I hate anglo slop. Where is the kino. Tencent pls adapt The Dark Forest.

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[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I just don't see anything analogous with the Dark Forest theory and modern Asian geopolitics

Avoiding open confrontation with a technologically superior opponent? (Again, the Three Body Problem was published in 2008. China's military capability has greatly grown since then.) Approach it from the defender's perspective: if there's a genocidal fascist colonist entity, do you risk broadcasting your location/global presence or is it wiser to do everything you can to avoid notice?

Are the books about the consequences of drawing the attention of that entity?

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

do you risk broadcasting your location/global presence or is it wiser to do everything you can to avoid notice

See this is where the metaphor just completely breaks down, how is China gonna avoid "broadcasting its location/global presence" what does that even mean in the context of geopolitics circa 2008?

This is what I mean when I say the premise swamps/overwhelms the subtext, the metaphor is 300 years out of date and historically incoherent

For the subtext of "avoiding open confrontation with a technologically superior opponent" to work, the premise and the books should've begun with a post-alien invasion storyline, something like Yakitori: Soldiers of Misfortune or Gintama, the remote spooky mysteriousness of the Dark Forest Theory acts too much like linear pathing in a video game, if you take the implications of the theory seriously there's only one way for the plot to go and it doesn't gel well with the subtext the author was trying to advance

[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

what does that even mean in the context of geopolitics circa 2008?

It means Dengism. To quote Deng Xiaoping on Chinese foreign policy circa the 1980s: “observe calmly, secure our position, cope with affairs calmly, hide our capacities and bide our time, be good at maintaining a low profile, and never claim leadership.”

The metaphor's 40 years out of date, rather than 300.

if you take the implications of the theory seriously

I mean, in the context of Chinese national defense it means that technological parity is the only means of avoiding disaster, and the books are kinda about the disaster that happens if you attract the notice of a technologically superior opponent without achieving technological parity first

[-] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

China is based but hiding there power level, duh.

I feel like it's worth mentioning that Obama was a big fan of this book series & I first heard about it on NPR of all places.

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