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submitted 5 months ago by Hubi@feddit.de to c/technology@lemmy.world

The malicious changes were submitted by JiaT75, one of the two main xz Utils developers with years of contributions to the project.

“Given the activity over several weeks, the committer is either directly involved or there was some quite severe compromise of their system,” an official with distributor OpenWall wrote in an advisory. “Unfortunately the latter looks like the less likely explanation, given they communicated on various lists about the ‘fixes’” provided in recent updates. Those updates and fixes can be found here, here, here, and here.

On Thursday, someone using the developer's name took to a developer site for Ubuntu to ask that the backdoored version 5.6.1 be incorporated into production versions because it fixed bugs that caused a tool known as Valgrind to malfunction.

“This could break build scripts and test pipelines that expect specific output from Valgrind in order to pass,” the person warned, from an account that was created the same day.

One of maintainers for Fedora said Friday that the same developer approached them in recent weeks to ask that Fedora 40, a beta release, incorporate one of the backdoored utility versions.

“We even worked with him to fix the valgrind issue (which it turns out now was caused by the backdoor he had added),” the Ubuntu maintainer said.

He has been part of the xz project for two years, adding all sorts of binary test files, and with this level of sophistication, we would be suspicious of even older versions of xz until proven otherwise.

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You are an idiot. It's not blind. That's how it was found.

Not having world accessible SSH is the real fix here.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

You are an idiot. It’s not blind. That’s how it was found.

From the article...

Will Dormann, a senior vulnerability analyst at security firm Analygence, said in an online interview. “BUT that's only because it was discovered early due to bad actor sloppiness. Had it not been discovered, it would have been catastrophic to the world.”

[-] 5C5C5C@programming.dev 9 points 5 months ago

The fact that it was discovered early due to bad actor sloppiness does not imply that it could not have also been caught prior to wide spread usage via security audits that take place for many enterprise grade Linux distributions.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I think it does though. They call it sloppy, I call it sophisticated. Same reason they major distro is running checking shit out right now.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Opensource = fast detection

Opensource + sloppiness = faster detection

Closedsource = never detected

Closedsource + sloppiness = maybe detected

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

You can put the pom-poms/rifle down, I'm not attacking open source, not in the slightest. I'm a big believer open source.

But I also know that volunteer work is not always as rigorous as when paid for work is being done.

The only point I'm trying to make in this conversation is getting confirmation if security audits are actually done, or if everyone just thinks they're done because of "Open Source" reasons.

[-] elshandra@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah I nearly panicked for a second there, then I remember noone's getting near that anyway. Back to my relaxing weekend.

[-] TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 5 months ago

Not really. The most important admin interfaces are the ones you can't lock behind an IP whitelists.

"whitelists good IPs" - OK but what if I need to manage the "good ip" infra, etc

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