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And yet the United States with its unfettered capitalism has failed to be a world leader in environmentalism
That honour goes to Nordic and European social democracies
Sure you need to be sufficiently wealthy, but you also need to restrict capital so companies can not pollute, and have social policies to pay for the those solutions the market will not supply
The Nordic countries are all capitalist
The US is a bad example, and still is a greater example than the communist/socialist countries provided.
These nordic countries are pretty good example of how you can have capitalism with a great welfare state, without going socialist/communist. My guess is their main difference is that they don't allow the richer companies to lobby on politicians, or at-least not as much as the US does.
The US — poster child for capitalism, creator of regulatory capture for ultimate best capitalism — is a poor example of a capitalist country?
Capitalism + regulation + welfare is the definition of socialism
Capitalism with strong regulation is so good that the Soviet Union used it; China uses it
Capitalism with strong regulation... the best example would be the nordic countries you believe are socialist.
Sure, I was using the examples I used to demonstrate that even revolutionary communism isn't opposite to capitalism
Capitalism with regulations based in state socialism. Got it. It's socialistic capitalism.
China isn’t capitalist at all
Except in their special economic areas
You just mentioned some of the most socialist countries. The welfare state is literally a form of socialism.
That an entire political party has been deluded into thinking other people in their own class are the enemy and are the reason they're poor and not simply the wealthy being the reason, is the problem with the US. Democratic Party isn't the answer, but they're not as much of the cause as the GOP, which has simply co-opted hate into their repertoire as well. The problem in the US, is there's a very vocal hateful minority that care about voting more than the apathetic, silent majority.