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There's Nothing Green About Socialism - HumanProgress
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You what, mate? They're among the most socialist nations in the world, more so than Argentina or China
They are social democracies. Even Wikipedia makes it clear.
Dunno where people got the idea these countries are socialist.
You are using a cold war definition of socialism. It's outdated
Socialism isn't the opposite of democracy
Socialism is what social democracies do.
I hope you are joking. Socialism is when the workers own the means of production. These social democracies do not the workers owning the means of production and hence are capitalist
That's communism
I don’t think you know the definitions. Communism is a classless society. Socialism is one where the workers own the means of production
You're now following in the most common argument fallacy between socialists/communists, called No true Scotsman.
Except it's you that's using an outdated definition for socialism, you are the odd one out here, the rest of us all agree on that as a type of socialism
Note that Wikipedia does not call Venezuela socialist or communist, though the outdated ideas you're relying on do
Socialism’s definition hasn’t changed. It’s when the workers control the means of production. If that’s not true, it’s a capitalist country
Your wiki links first sentence says it's within socialism which would make them socialist.
Funnily enough Wikipedia's entry for Saudi Arabia doesn't use socialism anywhere in it, and Venezuela only has "socialist" in political party names
I wonder if to be socialist you need to implement social policies for the benefit of the people rather than for the benefit of the government (by preventing revolt)
I don't understand if you're dumb or just trolling at this point