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submitted 7 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

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This is a tough column to write, because I don’t want to demean or insult those who write me in good faith. I’ve started it a half dozen times since November but turned to other topics each time because this needle hard to thread. No matter how I present it, I’ll offend some thoughtful, decent people.

The north star here is truth. We tell the truth, even when it offends some of the people who pay us for information.

The truth is that Donald Trump undermined faith in our elections in his false bid to retain the presidency. He sparked an insurrection intended to overthrow our government and keep himself in power. No president in our history has done worse.

This is not subjective. We all saw it. Plenty of leaders today try to convince the masses we did not see what we saw, but our eyes don’t deceive. (If leaders began a yearslong campaign today to convince us that the Baltimore bridge did not collapse Tuesday morning, would you ever believe them?) Trust your eyes. Trump on Jan. 6 launched the most serious threat to our system of government since the Civil War. You know that. You saw it.

The facts involving Trump are crystal clear, and as news people, we cannot pretend otherwise, as unpopular as that might be with a segment of our readers. There aren’t two sides to facts. People who say the earth is flat don’t get space on our platforms. If that offends them, so be it.

As for those who equate Trump and Joe Biden, that’s false equivalency. Biden has done nothing remotely close to the egregious, anti-American acts of Trump. We can debate the success and mindset of our current president, as we have about most presidents in our lifetimes, but Biden was never a threat to our democracy. Trump is. He is unique among all American presidents for his efforts to keep power at any cost.

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[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

I think people have a hard time encountering criticism of Biden without reading into it some sort of comparative statement that is not usually intended. I have personally encountered this many times. I can even go out of my way to say things like "of course Trump is much worse" in various levels of detail and yet, without fail, someone will come along and say that by not offering unquestioning support to Biden I'm a secret Trump supporter trying to undermine Biden or some other wild accusation. I believe this type of interaction is most responsible for perpetuating the idea that people believe the two men are similar. By contrast I rarely see that opinion offered directly.

[-] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Not so much as a secret Trump supporter as helping to muddy the waters. There are many, many valid criticisms to make of Biden (and even more things to validly praise, oddly enough never covered in the press....)

I think the problem people have with criticism, valid or otherwise, is that this is no time to raise any doubt whatsoever about who should be president next. Yes, that's a propagandist's position. It's also the only morally and practically correct one given the existential challenge we face.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social -4 points 7 months ago

No dissent during an election cycle, got it.

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

2016 was not long ago. "Valid dissent" is what successfully disenfranchised enough voters to give us Trump, which we will spend a lifetime recovering from.

You people have a very short memory.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Like I said: No dissent in an election cycle.

And the neat part is that election cycles don't ever stop.

So we have zero dissent.

Yay democracy.

Also: What you mean "you people?" That sounds like you're being needlessly divisive, trying to paint progressives as disloyal.

I bet you're one of those IRA agents infiltrating message boards.

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

And you sound like someone who would be complicit with electing Hitler pre-WW2 because his political rivals weren't perfect matches to your ideals.

Wake the fuck up. You get "divisive" replies from people like me because we're tired of your intellectually dishonest "what, I can't voice dissent?" when democracy is actually in major jeopardy this very moment. This isn't some hypothetical.

You whine about people shutting down your bullshit because we're fed up with it. But the other side is literally facism that would likely evolve into actual imprisonment for "voicing dissent".

And that's not hyperbole. Dictatorships around the world currently do that. Trumps own lawyers argued that the sitting president cannot be guilty of any crimes, that they can literally assassinate rivals.

Again, that is not hyperbole. That is fact.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social -2 points 7 months ago

Holy cow, y'all are more deranged than I thought

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