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There's Nothing Green About Socialism - HumanProgress (www.humanprogress.org)
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There's clearly a lean to the left side of things in Lemmy instances, with many people attacking people at the right.

In some cases regarding the climate crisis, there's people blaming it on capitalism while hinting that communism/socialism are the solution to the climate crisis, because somehow having the state controlling the entire economy will lead to stop CO2 emissions.

A bit from the article:

The best way to protect the environment is to get rich. That way, there is enough money not only to meet the needs of ordinary people, but also to pay for cleaner power plants and better water-treatment facilities. Since capitalism is the best way to create wealth, humanity should stick with it.

Not the first time I've heard about this concept, and the more i look into the world the more I agree with it. Being green is kind of a luxury that not many people can afford, and the poorer people are the less they can afford green technology.

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[-] what_is_a_name@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If they are stagnating it’s despite leaning TO THE RIGHT - and hard - over the past 20 years. There are very few truly socialist parties left in Europe and very few are in power. Definitely not recently in France. Their stagnation and exploding inequality is due to capitalism taking over.

It’s like California - a poor mixture of hopeful socialism and neoliberal cynical Reaganism.

To drive the point home Macron is quite a bit pro capitalism right wing politician. Not any other way. P

[-] traveler01@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Yes another “No true Scotsman” argument. Amazing!

[-] what_is_a_name@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Funny. That is the fallacy you’re commuting with capitalism. Oligarchy / widespread poverty is a feature of most systems we’ve invented so far. But for you that is deformation of capitalism and a feature only of socialism. Go figure. No true Scotsman for you either.

And about France - who would have thought that world history and politics is complicated!? (Not Cato. If all you read is Cato bullshit, you get a very simplistic understanding of the world)

[-] traveler01@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I never did say poverty wasn’t not existent in capitalist systems. I’ve said though that capitalism helped decrease poverty races over the last century.

When the Berlin Wall was up, to which side people wanted to run?

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