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What is something the world would be better without?
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this post was submitted on 05 Apr 2024
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Jordan Peterson
He causes no harm to the people who don't like him but he has helped thousands of young men sort their lives out and get their shit together. This has objectively made a huge positive impact in the world.
He became popular by harming people.
He became popular by resisting government mandate on speech. He haven't harmed anyone. He's literally a clinical psychologist whose job is to help people.
Didn't he lose the right to be a psychologist because he was harming people?
A quick google didn't provide me with any information on that but I'm sure you will.
"An Ontario court ruled against popular clinical psychologist Dr. Jordan Peterson and is upholding an order for him to receive social media sensitivity training or lose his license to practice medicine... The court declared Dr. Peterson’s activities as harmful to the public and damaging to the profession of psychology, with his statements threatening to erode public trust... ...He has not worked in clinical psychology since 2017,"
Article from August 2023 https://leaders.com/news/public-speaking/jordan-petersons-appeal-denied-requires-training-for-medical-license/
Behind the bastards podcast on JP https://youtu.be/v9zjjj8NP3g?si=_YSIx7AjAH4p-g3O
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I don't see it saying anywhere that he has lost his licence or harmed anyone. He doesn't even do clinical work anymore.
Agree he hasn't lost his license yet, as that is currently what is being threatened if he does not comply with the court order. Hasn't actually happened yet, just will if he doesn't.
As for being harmful... I don't know how to spell this out any simpler than the quote so I'll just make it easier to read I guess?
**THE COURT DECLARED DR. PETERSON'S ACTIVITIES AS HARMFUL TO THE PUBLIC AND DAMAGING TO THE PROFESSION OF PSYCHOLOGY **
I'm really not what there is to misunderstand, he is under threat of losing his license because his actions are HARMFUL TO THE PUBLIC AND THE PROFESSION OF PSYCHOLOGY
First you said that he became popular by "harming people" but the article you linked states; He became famous in 2016 after criticizing Canadian Bill C-16, claiming that the bill would enforce speech codes and harm free speech.
Then you implied he lost his license to practise clinical psychology which also has not happened (atleast yet)
Now you're saying that posting controversial comments on social media is "harmful to the public"
"The complaints against him include making "misleading" statements about COVID-19; mocking a plus-size Sports Illustrated model; and calling a surgeon a "criminal" for removing the breasts of transgender actress Ellen Page."
Source
So while I don't disagree that saying stupid shit on social media can potentially be harmful to some individuals that is still not in any way unique behaviour to JP so considering the original argument I still disagree with the claim that the world would be a better place without him. He's like Elon Musk; people don't like him as a person so they're actively looking for the most insignificant faults in his behaviour and then act like he's some horrible human being. It's recreational outrage pure and simple.
It's been two people bud. Other guy took over for me and I don't see a need to repeat the information, he did a better job than what I would've done.
Your statement is correct in he became popular because of his voice on C-16.
Listen I don't care to spell out every detail on why his statements ARE harassment. I don't feel like you care to listen. That's fine, no one expects you to be superman. It's okay to not be right sometimes. You don't have to change, you'll just be left behind. Good luck gamer.
The other guy is on my block list so it's only you I'm hearing from. Ad hominem also isn't changing anyone's mind. Making this about me is just wasting both of our time.
You do realize blocking people on here only deafens the blocker to them, right?
What's your point? What else would blocking be for than to stop me from seeing messages from the people I've blocked?
Just from how you worded it, you sounded like you put them aside is all. Many people don't know that blocking on here isn't what they're used to. Not that I think either one is in the best spirit of discussion.
My capacity to pay attention to things is limited so I prefer to not waste it on stuff that isn't important or interesting. When an user demonstrates incapability for civil discussion I choose to dismiss them entirely. I'm perfectly aware that by doing so I'm also filtering out a ton of potentially valuable content but I simply don't care because there's an effectively infinite amount of it.
the person he encouraged to kill themself?
fixed that for you