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[-] Poob@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

You are still allowed to dislike innocent people. The law is not morality.

[-] Noughmad@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

He also wasn't found "innocent", but "not guilty".

There's a vast difference between that. Not guilty means that we can't prove he's guilty beyond reasonable doubt, not that we can prove that he's innocent.

It's still very likely he committed crimes, but we can't be sure enough to send him to jail.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Came here to say this! With all we've heard about the man, I'd say he's slam-dunk "not innocent". BUT, he was found not guilty as charged.

People really get up in arms because they don't know the difference. And it's not just some legal shenanigans, it's a real-world thing.

Another example is my sleezebag Congressman, Matt Gaetz. People act like he wasn't prosecuted due to being in Congress, money, whatever. No, he wasn't prosecuted due to lack of evidence and witness testimony.

Is he an innocent man? Fuck no. But that's not enough to lock him up. Given the nature of the case, I wouldn't have prosecuted either. About zero chance of a jury returning a guilty verdict. Pretty sad about it, I really hoped to see that man in orange.

[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I have never heard about an "innocent" verdict, is that really a thing?

[-] PopularUsername@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They are just making a point. No such thing, just pointing out that criminal courts don't prove innocence.

[-] Heringssalat@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I think the closest you get to that is if you counter-sue (or they get sued for lying in court, etc.) the accusers and win.

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

When Depp won against Heard, Reddit went full on circle jerk around Depp. Sure his ex was an abusive fuck, but that doesn't excuse Depp's horrendous actions and his general creepyness. Dude is 60 chasing after 20 year olds and complains when they're immature. His ex may have been worse than him, but he's still an abusive creep.

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

semen (the body fluid)

[-] Syndic@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

You are still allowed to dislike innocent people.

Just a small correction. Being not proven guilty doesn't proves innocence. It just means that the accusation couldn't be proven in court. That's the price we pay for our justice system which tries to keep wrong convictions as small as possible, quite a few guilty people will walk free.

And I think in this case a guilty person walks free.

[-] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

So you have insider knowledge that the public is not aware of?

[-] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

where there's smoke, there is fire my friend

[-] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

So false accusations simply don´t exist in your world?

[-] Syndic@feddit.de -4 points 1 year ago

No. But with these many accusations I really don't need that to make an educated guess.

And nothing prevents me from doing so since I can't do shit about that fucker beside not watching his movies.

[-] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

No. But with these many accusations I really don’t need that to make an educated guess.

So when a certain number of accusations against a person is reached that makes the accusations true? Funny logic ... so at what number of accusations do they magically turn from being just accusations to being the truth?

And nothing prevents me from doing so since I can’t do shit about that fucker beside not watching his movies.

You really think he gives a shit if you watch his movies? Cute but please keep in mind the dude is super fucking rich and his estimated worth is about 70.000.000$.

[-] Syndic@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

So when a certain number of accusations against a person is reached that makes the accusations true?

No, but much more likely.

You really think he gives a shit if you watch his movies? Cute but please keep in mind the dude is super fucking rich and his estimated worth is about 70.000.000$.

Yes? That's my point!

[-] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, but much more likely.

Yeah, I agree with that.

Yes? That’s my point!

Ah, then I think I misunderstood you in that point.

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