430
submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by AEMarling@slrpnk.net to c/solarpunk@slrpnk.net

Listening to a recent episode of the Solarpunk Presents podcast reminded me the importance of consistently calling out cryptocurrency as a wasteful scam. The podcast hosts fail to do that, and because bad actors will continue to try to push crypto, we must condemn it with equal persistence.

Solarpunks must be skeptical of anyone saying it’s important to buy something, like a Tesla, or buy in, with cryptocurrency. Capitalists want nothing more than to co-opt radical movements, neutralizing them, to sell products.

People shilling crypto will tell you it decentralizes power. So that’s a lie, but solarpunks who believe it may be fooled into investing in this Ponzi scheme that burns more energy than some countries. Crypto will centralize power in billionaires, increasing their wealth and decreasing their accountability. That’s why Space Karen Elon Musk pushes crypto. The freer the market, the faster it devolves to monopoly. Rather than decentralizing anything, crypto would steer us toward a Bladerunner dystopia with its all-powerful Tyrell corporation.

Promoting crypto on a solarpunk podcast would be unforgivable. That’s not quite what happens on S5E1 “Let’s Talk Tech.” The hosts seem to understand crypto has no part in a solarpunk future or its prefigurative present. But they don’t come out and say that, adopting a tone of impartiality. At best, I would call this disingenuous. And it reeks of the both-sides-ism that corporate media used to paralyze climate action discourse for decades.

Crypto is not “appropriate tech,” and discussing it without any clarity is inappropriate.

Update for episode 5.3: In a case of hyper hypocrisy, they caution against accepting superficial solutions---things that appear utopian but really reinforce inequality and accelerate the climate crisis---while doing exactly that by talking up cryptocurrency.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] WormFood@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

crypto is just our current financial system but worse. more risk, more volatility, faster consolidation of wealth, slower transactions, and less actual utility. more than a decade on, there are only a very small handful of things you can actually buy with bitcoin, let alone any other cryptocurrency. what problem does that solve?

i do at least admire the utopianism of it - i'm not exactly going to bat for our current banking system - but if you see crypto in 2024 as anything other than a failed experiment at best then you're just delusional, it has completely failed to solve any of the problems it set out to solve and it has verifiably made the world a worse place

[-] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

If you’re actually asking what it solves:

Trust. Blockchain technology eliminates the need for trust where typically it would be required.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago

Sadly blockchain doesn't even to that. It just shifts trust to a nebulous cabal of large miners in the case of Bitcoin or the big oligarchs in the case of Etherium.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Its not utopianism, its basically just harm reduction.

[-] tiggidyty@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Crypto is vast my friend. It is not a financial system per se. At its core it is tools for human coordination which, by necessity contains a financial system.

It is indeed an experiment but it's a little premature to say that it has failed. The cake is still in the oven.

It's true that plenty of crypto projects have failed. That's to be expected in a bleeding edge experimental space. People try things out and sometimes they fail. That's how it works. There are however, plenty of projects that are still going strong fueled by very talented developers working tirelessly to address all of your criticisms. It just takes time. This is complex stuff. It's the merging of cryptography, economics and computer science among other things. It's going to take a little while.

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Actual transactions for banks take longer than it shows, that how overdrafts still happen or bounced payments even though an accounts shows a recent deposits. They will show what SHOULD happen and over a couple of days the accounts process

Its why VISA was looking at using some of ETH smart contract stuff to potentially handle some of their payments on the back end, as well as the reason why central bank digital currency (CBDC) had some legitimate studies being done on it.

this post was submitted on 08 Apr 2024
430 points (89.7% liked)

Solarpunk

5393 readers
8 users here now

The space to discuss Solarpunk itself and Solarpunk related stuff that doesn't fit elsewhere.

What is Solarpunk?

Join our chat: Movim or XMPP client.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS