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We fucked it.. Plain and simple..
This is not a good answer. 10 years ago nobody cared and we kept doing what we always did. Now everyone realises humanity is facing a severe survival-problem in the near future and people instantly switch from denying it to accepting it. Please don't! There are so many things one can do to fight our collapse. Apathy, catastrophism and cynicism gives power to the fossil destroyers. Don't let those fuckers win, go solarpunk on them! Take your money to a green, ethical bank, go vegan, grow potatoes with your neighborhood, repair stuff and blow up a pipeline.
In a strange way, the global heating gives our lifes way more meaning than 30 years ago, when nothing mattered and we just kept buying toys until we die.
Unfortunately, there is no peaceful solution. Conservative greed cannot be stopped by pacifism. Physical force will be required. Because we don't talk openly about this, most normal people cannot see a way to win.
The rules that benefit conservative corporations are designed for us to follow all the way to our graves. One cannot step out of line without risking health, home or freedom. Protests are ineffective. Action is required - widespread action that would require coordination and communication.
We aren't allowed to communicate openly about the specific actions needed, as those actions break the rules. So it is perfectly reasonable for people to recognize the impending loss, given the obviously ineffective options we are presented.
You lost me when you mentioned veganism. With you for the rest
The meat industry is a huge driver of climate change. If you don’t want to stop eating meat, you can also choose to eat meat from local farmers. It will probably mean eating less of it, because sustainably farmed meat is necessarily expensive.
Vegans unite. Downvoting me because I won't change my diet you fucking losers. Haha.
I do eat locally produced meat and shop at farmers markets for the most part. I'm not going vegan.
Transport routes are very efficient, and for food, they are responsible for a maximum of 2% of CO2 emissions.
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Selfish and arrogant? Nice.
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Why?
I'm an omnivore who enjoys meat. I would hunt my food if it was an option to me. I eat meat with most meals. I've travelled and spent a chunk of time in places like India where I didn't eat a lot of meat at all and lived on dal fry (lentils) and whatever else was commonly available. It was fine, but I'm not designed to live on salad, beans and tofu alone.
Thats not to say I'm blind to problems in the meat industry, I'm sure someone will mention methane or whatever else, plus there's clearly a serious amount of waste, and a fuck-tonne of animal cruelty (the concept of breeding life for food is probably cruel, right?).. I don't believe in battery farms or any of that. I'd prefer hundreds of self sufficient permaculture food farms, with a varied and healthy ecosystem instead of monoculture savaging the lands nutrients.
The problem is similar to oil. We know they are the largest polluters but we still need to drive to some job - public transport isn't available/suitable for everyone, and electric vehicles aren't cheap enough to the majority of people (batteries are creating its own problems with lithium mines among other things).
I have a problem with veganism as I feel its an extreme attitude anyway. Great if it works for you but its not a catch all diet. Vegetarianism is more realistic, but vegans are the worst representatives for veganism. I've never met one who wasn't preachy and somewhat judgemental about it.
I'm all up for constructive debate about big issues. The problem is one of power. We as the people have the collective bargaining power to fix everything, to fight our governments honestly and constructively. yet year after year, election after election, there is an absolute lack of a real and correct public response beyond a few vocal outrages or violence/riots which doesn't help.. And what's worse, is when you do get a good spokesman for a cause, you end up hating them for whatever reason. Half the time its from media bias, but even without that, hearing them passionately fight for something, people turn against them. They become annoying and the cause is lost. Governments are full of self serving snobs and can delay things long enough nothing happens. So we always just sit and wait.
I digress, right?! But its all the same collective issue/attitude and the scam on the public is the same trick every single time. We are kept on the breadline so we can't afford to fight back. You or whomever is telling me to go vegan when thats really not the issue. Don't even get me started on palm oil.