!I was open to the possibility that things might have gotten to hell after NV, and personally always considered the DUST mod as canon because of it. But apparently they moved the fall of the NCR back to 2277, when F3 took place, before the events of NV. I know people are saying "but it could mean decline!", but its still weird considering that the NCR we see in NV is still powerfull and active, not a society near collapse. No NCR character in the game ever makes any reference to Shady Sands being abandoned or in ruins or fallen. Its still talked as the heart of the nation. The entire objective of the NCR with Hoover Dam is to provide cheap electriciy to Shady Sands as well. And making New Vegas be a destroyed ruin is still equal to retcon, since it means nothing in the game has any impact whatsoever. No choice is canon, since it doesnt matter:, it all blew up a second later!<