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this post was submitted on 13 Apr 2024
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Non-political? What does that even mean in this context? It's literally about a civil war in America caused by political issues.
I think they mean that it's non-partisan. The movie clearly is broadly political.
But it's also clearly partisan with just enough play to avoid a boycott. Everything the authoritarian president does to initiate the war has a very direct analogue in actions taken by Trump and his administration.
Most of the OPs posts are in Conservative, a movement that thinks original series Star Trek was originally not political at all and media becomes political when they show the real experiences of a minority or disenfranchised member of society. I would take them saying something isn't political with a grain of salt.
Can you find a review that says otherwise? Needessly bringing my politics into the discussion is a weird discussion tactic since the writer/director has said this was intentional. So now you think you know more than the writer? How Goofy is that? I have never heard a conservative say anything about Star Trek. Also weird to bring up.
So why do you you think you know more than the person who wrote the film?
You are the type of person the writer points to in the film. You are being overly partisan without actually knowing the facts.
"Nonpolitical" is just another way of saying "I agree with the politics"
I don’t want to spoil it but politics are never discussed. It isn’t about left or right politics. They never even talk about why the war started. There is one hint but that’s a bout it.
It’s not a satire.
That's still a political message though, it doesn't have to be about a specific political party. The idea of the film itself is political.
The preview I saw of it makes it look like shit. What is the justification at all? Why did the fighting start? Sounds like bullshit, feel free to spoil it for me, not going to watch it regardless. Just looks like some type of brainworm took over everyone and they started wanting violence indiscriminately.
The why is not really important to the movie. The only mention of why is the president taking a third term and possibly also doing airstrikes on citizens before the start of the civil war. The film more focuses on the how of a possible civil war: the societal breakdown, the atrocities, how people are making it through, etc. There is not really a clearly good militant group in the movie and it is not clear that things are going to somehow be all good if/once the president is removed from office.
I think there were definitely some things that could have been added in like many more corrupt as fuck checkpoints blocking roads. They did show a checkpoint but the characters had no issues with it. Checkpoints are a very easy way for soldiers or locals to shake people down.
If you want something that goes more into why a civil war might happen, I recommend the beginning of the podcast series It Could Happen Here. It was made back in 2019 and foretold some of how things unfolded in 2020 and 2021.
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The only real clue is the president is on his third termI enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would but it’s hard to watch
Also bombing civilians?
I took that as after the war started.