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this post was submitted on 13 Apr 2024
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Biden already told Israel the US will not join Israel in a counter-striker and has asked Israel to take the interception of most of the attack as a victory and let it go.
That doesn't sound like much, but Bush or Trump would have already hit Iran by now and escalated everything.
Biden blocked UN condemnation of the israeli strike on the embassy and according to an israeli journalist America spent 1 Billion dollars to intercept the counter attack from Iran.
Biden provides israel with the jets and weapons to bomb Iran and defends israel against any retaliation.
I would imagine that Americans are chuffed that genocidal Israelis are safe while they can't get health care.
americans would be if we paid enough attention or our news pointed out this fact, but our attention spans are intentionally overtaxed w struggling to pay rent, groceries, student loans, medical bills, etc. and looking for a job with a living wage to care all that much or notice.
I. Fucking. Wish.
And that's why you shouldn't pay american taxes. Just fucking don't.
Providing weapons is wrong, but defending them isn't.
A billion dollars is fuck all if it stops Israel escalating. Harder to do that if Tel Aviv has a bunch of craters in it.
You do realize that in that context "Take the missiles being intercepted as a victory and back down" is a threat to let the misses through next time if Israel doesn't back down.
Stopping the missiles in this case was a pure win for the US. We kept innocent civilians from dying, made Iran look weaker, and kept Israel from having a stronger excuse to start fighting more neighbors.
It's taking longer than we like, but more and more people are coming around on this issue. If those missiles had landed, it would have undone 6 months of progress and all political progress towards reigning in Isreal would have ceased.
Iran never intended to overwhelm air defenses. The only launched a few hundred drones. The iron domes weakness has been obvious since oct7. Just overwhelm it with cheap projectiles.
This was a well calculated response from Iran that did show retaliation but not cause escalation. I wouldn't call it a US win is it is what Iran intended. Still very expensive for the US.
Iron dome can't do shit against ballistics, ballistics need much more expensive interceptors.
Anyway, Iran did penetrate their defenses with Kheybarshekan Hypersonics which aren't even the latest generation, in case of a real war Israel will be fucked thoroughly
Iran and the US have both been pretty savvy in recent conflicts. Iran's response to Trump's assassination of a general back in 2020 was one of the best I've seen. They launched an attack on an empty portion of a US military base so they could say they retaliated without giving the US cause to do anything else.
Of course they fucked that up right afterwards by shooting down a civilian plane...
This comes across as if you're angry Iran's strike didn't do more damage.
I am.
I am! The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
Irancs government sucks shit, I hope their people overthrow them and the whole leadership swings, but credit where its due; they're killing Nazis. Everybody gets points for killing Nazis, except other Nazis (except on purpose, then they get points)
Biden would have too without his balls in a vice. The leaders are all the same; its the pressure on them that matters.
"the leaders are all the same" "biden can be influenced to do different things" "heehoo politic"
They kind of are? The decisions they make are similar?
Biden didn't do shit to stop the Missouri AG from getting a list of trans patients from planned parenthood. Those people are going to be persecuted either way.
And on Palestine their positions are even closer, except I think biden actually believes in it, whereas trump doesn't believe in anything-on this one issue, he might genuinely be better, because pressuring him would be easier.
Politics does not include elections. This is why policies supported by the majority of Americans (single payer, legal weed, legal abortions (was it only early or including late that like 70% support?) And cutting aid to "Israel") support are not law. Because Americans do not apply pressure.