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The creation of sexually explicit "deepfake" images is to be made a criminal offence in England and Wales under a new law, the government says.

Under the legislation, anyone making explicit images of an adult without their consent will face a criminal record and unlimited fine.

It will apply regardless of whether the creator of an image intended to share it, the Ministry of Justice (MoJ) said.

And if the image is then shared more widely, they could face jail. 

A deepfake is an image or video that has been digitally altered with the help of Artificial Intelligence (AI) to replace the face of one person with the face of another.

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[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago

I think it's harmless to generate and enjoy deepfake porn for your private consumption. I don't do it because I like my nude women to have ten fingers and toes.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

I'm not sure I buy that argument.

There is enough pornography to last you until the heat death of the universe. The only reason you would create your own pornography with people who never consented is because the transgression itself is what is giving the sexual pleasure, not the pornography.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 8 points 6 months ago

Enjoying something for its transgressive nature doesn't make something necessarily bad. Neither does that make everything okay, I'm just saying there is nothing inherently wrong with enjoying the transgressiveness of an act more than the act itself.

But this is highly philosophical and any attempt to seriously explain my thoughts (and I made three attempts before just going with this) quickly gets too long, so hopefully we can just agree that there's room for respectful disagreement.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca -1 points 6 months ago

No, I don't think there is room for respectful disagreement when one of us is arguing they don't require sexual consent.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 9 points 6 months ago

No one consents to featuring in private fantasies.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca -3 points 6 months ago

A private fantasy is a thought. Creating unconsensual pornography is an action.

The longer this conversation continues, the higher your ick factor gets.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago

Masturbating is an action, too. What's the qualitative difference between a private image in one's head and one on a screen?

You seem to struggle with separating a philosophical conversation from whatever icks you. If it assuages your sensibilities I don't engage in this activity, but only because it's not arousing to me in any way. I just can't see any actual difference between a fake image in your head and an equally private image on a screen.

When an image becomes public or harassing I think there is a clear problem. If you want to disagree on where the line is between an image in your head and one used to harm someone, that's fine. Neither of us is drafting a law here so it's all just wind and words. Have a good day.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

An image in your head isn't a physical product that exists in the material world.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago

Neither is an image projected onto a screen.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca -1 points 6 months ago

No, if you create something it exists, whether or not it is a digital file or not.

Can you please send me 20 photos of you, along with roughly 10 minutes of audio?

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago

So you're suggesting that saving the image is where it becomes harmful?

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 months ago

Let's start with the creation of pornography starring you. Currently I am considering having 100 German men using you as a toilet.

Please provide images of yourself and a small clip containing your voice.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago

Do you, in all seriousness, think this is any kind of winning argument? I give absolutely zero fucks if someone wants to jerk off to my image in privacy. Zero. For all you know being a toilet for 100 German men is what I call a fun Tuesday evening.

I'm just trying to identify the exact thing you think does harm to a person when done in complete privacy.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 months ago

If you give zero fucks, hand it over.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago

Look if you like to jerk off to fetish porn of random strangers that's totally on you. If you do it in private, I'll never know and certainly never care whether it's me or not. If you don't then we've established that's harmful. So what is the point of this empty challenge? I've got nothing to prove to you. You can either accept my word at face value or not. I don't actually care where you draw the line between imagination and harm, but it's kinda weird that you can't accept that folks can have a reasonable difference of opinion. That's a you problem. See ya.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 months ago

So you are obstructing me from accomplishing what you think is okay to do without consent...

Very very interesting.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Not enabling you is obstruction? My dude do whatever you want if you can. My image is out there on Facebook and other platforms. God speed, you kinky fucker. Or, if you're not actually trying to get off, then this whole thing is in bad faith.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 months ago

Pm me your Facebook account.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

If it's a deepfake of a celeb you like, you may likely never get the real thing

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca -1 points 6 months ago
[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Don't fake kink shame....

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