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Maybe, just maybe it shouldn't cost close to 10k to even TRY to have a kid through IVF? More like 15k out of pocket costs till the Medicare rebate anyway.

1 in 6 aussie couples will struggle with infertility whilst 1 in 20 kids is born of IVF. https://monashivf.com/one-in-six/

1 in 6 couples. 1 in 20 babies. You can see a fair gap here. Unless your comfortably "middle class", you screwed. yes there are some public clinics with no gap, but the wait times are staggering. If we're worried about falling birth rates FULLY funding IVF and fertility treatments through Medicare is a no brainer.

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[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 34 points 7 months ago

Not an Australian but I bet good money it is the exact same reason as everywhere else in the west: people have no time, no money, no social services, and really bad future perspectives with the ecosystem going to shit and capitalism running the world into the ground.

People need time to raise kids, people need money to afford kids, kids need education and attention. Provide those things, and provide a not-bleak perspective for the future, and people will be happy to have kids again.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

That and the fact that women are still penalized in the workplace for having babies.

[-] abhibeckert@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

As someone with a three year old kid in Australia, I think the government does a pretty good job at all of those things.

For example we've only ever paid medical bills for things that were totally optional, and the free services were extensive (including repeated 1:1 home visits by a professional midwife - for free, and for the actual birth there was more staff attending that mum than anyone else in the hospital gets - even Intensive Care Unit patients get a lower level of care).

Education will be free starting next year, and the optional education he's enrolled in this year and in the last couple years have been extensively subsidised (and would be subsidised even more if our income was lower).

Money and time are and always will be in direct opposition to each other and every parent has to make a tradeoff between the two, and not really anything the government can control. But it's worth noting basic living expenses (like staple foods) are largely exempt from taxes, and the recent high cost of electricity, due to the ukraine war, has triggered government assistance packages to help people out (everyone, but low income people have been get even more help — we actually haven't paid an electricity bill at all the last 8 months or so - from memory we're about $100 in credit due to various subsidies).

Could it be better? Sure - for example I think free education should start younger and include things like swimming lessons (enough to not drown). But I don't really have any complaints.

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