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Capitalism happened. Designed to fail.
EVGA hardware sucks balls
Corsair hardware sucks balls
Razor hardware sucks balls
Logitech hardware sucks balls
Oddly enough, the only mouse that I've NEVER had issues with is a 5$ chinese MMO mouse with zero software or 'fancy crap' embedded. It just works. That mouse is now $50 for some reason.
Have to disagree on EVGA. I’ve purchased a lot of their hardware and any time I had an issue their support and RMAs were great. I’m really sad they got out of the video card business.
You disagree that they have hardware issues because they handled your return well when you had... hardware issues?
I have had probably 5 of their video cards and 4 or 5 of their power supplies. I've had one video card die a month before the 3 year warranty was up, and they sent me a much more powerful card as a replacement. That's good service.
I've had one power supply die and they cross shipped me a replacement, had it 3 days later.
Nothing is bulletproof, components fail. It's how the company handles it that matters, to me.
That means they have good customer service, but surely you see that every example is more data for the OPs claim that the hardware isn't up to snuff yeah?
No, I don't agree. What would a list of companies that never have hardware issues with their products look like? Spoiler alert, it would be a blank sheet of paper. Every company that makes electronics hardware has some level of defects. Perfection is an impossible standard to reach economically, and nothing lasts forever. If you have been lucky to not have hardware problems from a particular vendor, then that's it, just luck.
I've worked with enterprise network and server hardware for over 25 years now. Dell, HP, IBM, NetApp, EMC, Cisco, name any major tech hardware player and I've replaced their broken equipment in a datacenter. And all that equipment is (supposedly) built to a higher standard than consumer grade hardware. It still fails. Some companies handle that in a way that benefits the customer. Most don't. EVGA has always done it right that I've seen, so I have to give them props. Everything I ever bought from EVGA (or its RMA'd replacement) is still running in my house. Nothing has yet failed out of warranty in at least 10 years of buying their stuff. I'd call that a good track record.
EVGA is THE WORST imo
My 5dollarjunky mouse is running on 8 years now.
During those 8 years I attempted upgrades. I have 2 broken razor mine that won't left click constantly.
I have 3 EVGA x15 mice that won't stay connected. Issue persists on multiple computers and is seemingly random. I bought 1, and they sent me replacements twice.
I went back to my cheap Chinese mouse as a result.
I keep the garbage as a reminder to not buy those companies stuff.only thing I give EVGA credit for is their video cards. Amazing quality.
You got me there, I've never used one of their mice. I didn't even know they made them. I have only purchased video cards and power supplies from them, and haven't ever been disappointed. But no company always gets it right. Maybe they should stick to the things they're good at!
Evga makes baller PSUs as well
Agreed, I only use them or Seasonic, and it's been a long time since I bought a Seasonic.
I do give them credit for non accessory hardware. Amazing psu and video cards, accessories, trash.
Thanks, ill keep that in mind
I believe they are actually rebranded seasonic PSUs (which isn't uncommon for other brands as well)
Oh aye? Is that a recent development? I got mine right when the news as their leaving the GPU market broke (i liked the things commenters were saying about their quality). Mine is labeled evga still so i didn't know this.
Nah I think at least some of their PSUs have been Seasonic for a long time.
Apparently at least some of the higher end Corsair PSUs are also Seasonic.
Uh oh id better go read something afore i look even more ignorant lol. I haven't done research since i bought my psu.
I have to say i own a decent amount of Corsair hardware (kb+m, RAM, SSD and PSU), and none has ever given me an issue. Most of it I got a few years back so maybe that was before they declined?
Compared to Razer, where I've owned 3 mice and all of them failed one way or another. Decent keyboards though.
FYI many of Corsair's PSUs are just their branding slapped on a different company's part (made for them obviously), so some are okay to good, and some are trash
Edit: To be clear I use a ton of Corsair products (RAM, AiO, KB+M, Case, Fans) so not shitting on them, though their software is absolute dog shit tier. iCue will randomly disappear from my system every so often, only for all the files to still be there...but no executable.
Most of their products are produced in places like China but their RAM is still produced in Taiwan and high quality
Yes I did a decent amount of research on their PSUs, I managed to get one with a pretty solid reputation.
And I'm on Linux and use a community made software suite called CKB-Next, so I haven't had to deal with iCue in a couple years thankfully
Definitely capitalism. These companies are under constant pressure from shareholders to increase profits year over year.
Once they can't increase profits by growing the market share anymore, they increase it by making their products shittier.
Yes, some mid-low random mice can run for 10+ years, I had a couple. But on average they break much more frequently, and you have no guarantee to repair\replace them given by a producer\shop, that I also used when bought branded devices and was pretty happy with them returning money or giving me another one without much delays. You can afford up to 10 $5 mice before you get to the real treasure without stepping over a $50 mark, right, and it may become a frugal hobby, sometimes becoming into a hardware reselling game. But the gambling aspect, risky uncertainty is not for everyone, especially if we are talking something expensive like v-cards - in modern times, with integrated gfx having no problem supporting popular MMOs, those who still buy them really need them for some reason and getting them melt on the go is either a deep frustration or troubles at work, with hobbies. I, for once, can't afford to replace mine with prices still going crazy, even if it's 2-3 times cheaper than the pricey one, and still don't find a reason even though it's not as shiny as it was years ago. Comfort is a product too, and sometimes it's not just a facade.