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The Way Forward, an update from the team behind Cities: Skylines (forum.paradoxplaza.com)

submitted 7 months ago by simple@lemm.ee to c/games@lemmy.world

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TL;DR:

They apologized (again)
They will refund everyone who bought the beach DLC and make it a free addition to the game, admitting it was tasteless that they made paid DLC when the game is in a broken state
They will focus on base changes and better modding tools before starting to make more DLC (previously announced DLC has been delayed to 2025)
Console release delayed

Honestly, this is a good update. It's everything we wanted to hear. Looking forward to buying the game when it gets fixed.

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[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago

idk if this is a stupid opinion but I feel like us, the consumers are to blame. If everyone just waited a week and read reviews before buying games then publishers wouldn't be able to get away with this shit.

[-] cobysev@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Honestly, I always felt the $60 price tag for games (now $70+ for AAA titles!) was way too much, so I usually wait about a year or more, then buy it on sale.

So I get to sit back and watch the shitshow when people pre-order games and then get screwed when the game is garbage.

Dragon's Dogma II was super hyped up recently, and even I got the free character customization demo to pre-build a character. Then it announced day-one microtransactions the day before release and pissed off the gaming community.

[-] cmhe@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No, the consumers are never to blame for stuff like this!

This is something that is just that we get told by the people that are lying about and hyping up a product, putting up manipulative incentives for buying it before letting us inspect it. Then releasing trash, but still appealing on our empathic nature and promising that it might get fixed later. And when things turn to shit, then it is our trust and empathy, willingness to support them, that is to blame for it. No!

If the industry exploits our good and trusting nature, then we need to fight them with regulation and laws. Our civilization and the human nature is built on trust, and that should not be undermined by short profit oriented, exploitative companies or business practices.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I do wait, and the publishers don't get away with selling me unfinished games. It's great.

I wait at least a month for any game, 8 months for a Bethesda game.

[-] Klear@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

I waited a year for cyberpunk, until everyone was saying it was all fixed, and I hated all the bugs and some bad design decisions. Nothing major, but it felt like death of a thousand cuts.

I shudder to imagine how that game looked at release that this feels like a polished product to people.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Hah, yeah I also played cyberpunk quite recently. I really liked it for the most part, I'm considering playing it again with a totally different build.

Yeah, I saw some early gameplay videos from cyberpunk... I think it has indeed come a very long way.

[-] Klear@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

I can't say I didn't like it. Quite the opposite, but for a supposedly fixed game, there were still too many annoyances.

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

It's preorders. Stop preordering, and either the products will improve or studios will collapse.

[+] Konraddo@lemmy.world -27 points 7 months ago

To be precise, the new generation is to blame, who constantly preorders a game, and spends a lot on mobile games. Companies realize that bad products sell, so why would they improve?

[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 29 points 7 months ago

The new generation? I remember this stuff happening 15 years ago. People were camping outside before big game releases and had an incentive to ensure they got a copy of the game. The new generation that only buys digital is not to blame for the practice taking hold.

[-] Konraddo@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, that's what I meant. I didn't define the new generation, but in my mind people since the 80s are the new generation to me (I'm old). And you're right, camping a store to buy something you never saw is of course the issue. And in my country, people buy a house before it's even built, and that's also an issue that is common in this 'new generation'. So, this new generation tends to accept that buying something without seeing it is alright, and the gaming industry reflects that.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

The new generation?

In relation to who you were replying to, I think 'new' is in the eye of the beholder. Time is relative.

[-] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

"The new generation"

So there are no 40 year olds who blindly pre order the 15th CoD game because that's all they play? This is a general issue in the gaming community as a whole.

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Instead of getting hung up on an actual age number, consider it as older society versus the current newer society.

We can all argue the details, but today's consumer who purchase games seem to be a lot more willing to accept an inferior product, than those of the past.