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[-] CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Okay. Well looking at brand reliability numbers from JD Power, they're 8th. (Genesis which is their premium line is 2nd).

https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2023-us-vehicle-dependability-studyvds

Where's your data to back up your meaningless claims?

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

JD Power a world renowned Advertising group. It's research paid for by the company wishing to promote itself. It's fake yelp for Auto Makers. Total biased crap.

https://jalopnik.com/everything-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-the-jd-power-a-1818818969

[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars-a7824554938/

Okay how about Consumer Reports (an independent member-funded nonprofit), who put Kia/Hyundai at 10/11, admittedly showing Genesis much lower in the pack (18). Kia/Hyundai still beat out every American manufacturer on the list (not that its an overwhelmingly high bar).

They're definitely not perfect, but more middle of the road than older stigmas might have people believe.

[-] CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Yeah, to call them shitty is disingenuous. They're a solid brand at an affordable price which makes them pretty darn good for most Americans. And they still refused to actually point to any actual data about them being a bad brand. Just said JD Power is bad.

[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Agreed, and I'll add, as an EV owner, none of the brands above them have anything resembling a respectable EV lineup, except maybe BMW, but that's being generous. Toyota, Honda, and their subsidiaries make great cars, but they've dragged their feet more than anyone on the EV market.

As far as I'm concerned, if you're looking at this from an EV buyer's perspective, KIA/Hyundai top the list (which is reflected in CR's EV ratings, giving them the top spot for the last few years)

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