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Mark Rober is a practicing mormon. And that already did not sit right with me. Christian, muslim, I don't care what religion, these people should stay away from child education programs. Keeping your faith completely private is borderline acceptable, but please keep your symbols of faith out of your videos (white shirt for the mormons as I learned)
This reads as borderline schizoposting
Someone just being religious is "borderline acceptable?" Please go outside. People are often religious. It doesn't necessarily make them bad people. "Keep your symbols of faith out of your videos?" What a thing to say to a religious person who isn't trying to convert anyone with said videos. Like, I'm not Christian, I'm no fan of their bible, but I'm not about to give SmarterEveryDay a dislike and a block because he puts a bible verse at the end of each video.
I don't take issue with personal beliefs, but religion is organized belief, telling people what and how to believe. Anyone who advocates for religion has no business in any education system whatsoever.
He's not even in an education system he made a video on YouTube, but still you've got to recognize 'ban all Christians from any form of education system' is utterly wild?
"Ban all Christians from any form of education system" seems like a fairly accurate summary of "Christian, muslim, I don’t care what religion, these people should stay away from child education programs."
Like, I guess we could give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you don't want them banned, you just want them to voluntarily never educate children in any way, and that's... Still utterly wild
No?
There are crazies in every religion, and even agnostics and atheists have their fair share of crazies that go too far. It's also not a great idea to just not expose kids to religious folk (even if that was conceivable, which it's not given how many people are religious) and it's not a great idea to demand they keep it private. Preaching is too far, but it's perfectly acceptable for a teacher to tell their students what the teacher believes in and to wear iconography like a necklace of Jesus on the cross. In fact, I would much rather they be extremely public about what they believe in rather than be silent about it.
I hope for your personal consistency that you then are also okay with a woman in a hijab creating educational videos for youtube.
As far as the crazy atheists go, there's a type of "atheists" that treat atheism as a belief system, but have neither tried nor have the intellectual capacity to come up with their own, original understanding of why there is no god. However, there is a fundamental difference: Every crazy atheist is on their own, there's no "atheist institution" that backs their craziness. For cults (and the only practical distinction between a religion and a cult is just the amount of followers), that's not the case - you have a power hierarchy, sometimes more, sometimes less flat, that advocates their belief system.
It is therefore okay for a teacher - when asked(!) about it - to tell children about their personal beliefs. It is absolutely not okay for a teacher to tell unasked, or to tell children about the belief system / cult they are a part of.
Yeah. That's exactly what I was saying. You are correct, I am completely okay with that.
I disagree. It's perfectly fine for someone to give a sort of disclaimer as to what they believe in and other things like that. The issue is when they start preaching what they believe in without warning while supposedly teaching a different subject.