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I use arch btw
Linux mint shares all the flaws that are common to every Linux distro
My point is Linux doesn't have to be hard to use. You are going out of your way and making things difficult when using something like Arch Linux.
I'm not undermining your point in the first sentence, I was just saying that I use arch, btw
Linux mint shares a few ubuntu bugs, and even if you use LMDE someone like a child cannot understand the essence of linux in a controlled environment.
I'll repeat. You cannot teach linux in a controlled environment to a child.
I've heard of cases where parents are putting kids in front of linux recently!
They are windows illiterate i think is what the kids posted.
Yeah, that's nice to hear.
But that's not necessarily a controlled environment.
You can create controlled Linux environments fairly easily. Heck just disabling root access gets you half way there.
That's not what I mean.
Then what do you mean?
Yes you can! What do you think a Chromebook is or an Android tablet. Modern Linux is quite easy to use, in some areas easier than modern Windows. This is especially true if you have the kind of children who get viruses all the time.
Oh awesome. Leave it to lemmy to be pedantic.
I obviously meant normal linux distros when I referred to linux. Not chromebooks or android.
Also, using those is in no way the same as learning linux. In a chrome book you'll just be using a browser. In a phone, all the apps are locked down and you have no access to cli.
I never said the objective was to learn Linux. The objective is to use it.
You can get terminal access on a smartphone. I can give you a screenshot or two if you like. You can also run Linux apps on ChromeOS now. It leverages containers from my understanding, a technology baked into the modern Linux kernel.
No it's not pedantic you are using a true scotsman fallacy. That being said I don't think using Linux Mint is any harder than using and maintaining Windows especially if you don't have existing knowledge of either. macOS is easier to use than either Linux Mint or Windows.
Well you were replying to a comment of mine where the topic was teaching children linux.
A child will never bother doing that.
Yeah, I never said it couldn't.
It's not a true scotsman fallacy when neither chromeos nor android actively & openly advertise themselves as "Linux". Yes, they are linux and that has been acknowledged, but not advertised.
Is your bar seriously advertising? The mental gymnastics going on here is crazy. Yes it's a true scotsman fallacy. It doesn't matter if someone born in Scotland calls themselves Scottish or not, legally speaking they are still Scottish. That's how that works.
A child might not bother with the terminal on Linux Mint either. Does that mean Linux Mint isn't a real Linux now?
You also severely underestimate what children are capable of. I installed my first Linux distro, and taught myself HTML and CSS while still in primary school. I don't think you have any idea what children can do. I could probably outclass most adults with technology when I was 16 or so.
Um, I started using linux on my own when I was 9-10ish years old. I know perfectly what a child is capable of. But an average child will not do that.
thanks you for not forcing people to use arch, now I don't have to shit on it for a milliont time