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Hamas official says group would lay down its arms if an independent Palestinian state is established (apnews.com)

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A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 68 points 7 months ago

Assassinated by hard line Israelis who refuse to accept any type of two states solution. I have always wondered if we would have seen a true two state solution if Yitzhak Rabin hadn't been shot. I think it probably would have happened.

[-] gimpchrist@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

After reading his biography I fully believe that he could have created Middle East peace he could have been so fucking great he was a good man

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

The crazy thing is he wasn't some flower in the hair, love and peace is all we need kind of guy. he was part of the IDF and fought in several of the early conflicts. Then once he entered politics he was the defense minister for 10 years. He had the makings of any hardliner. But he was a guy that believed that peace was the only way forward for a conflict. A soldier who knew war and knew peace was the better choice.

[-] gimpchrist@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah that's the best part about it.. I firmly believe he was the last chance

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip -1 points 7 months ago

Basically one part of the Israeli independence war was a small civil war between left and right Zionists. The lefties won (being more numerous and frankly more popular, after WWII and all) and created a left-nationalist secular state with some meritocratic pretense, friendly with USSR but also with France and UK and USA.

Then they realized the need for pluralism and let the righties back into politics (because of need for their participation and their representation in the military and elsewhere). The righties frankly were more normal then, but that both made them an acceptable force in Israeli politics and still didn't remove the memory of that small civil war.

And then, after this assassination, a new force came in - the new generation of Irgun cosplayer righties, which wasn't normal in any sense of the word. By now these cosplayers have hijacked the social discourse in Israel to the level where they both demonize the remaining lefties and the remaining lefties barely make any difference.

The problem with cosplayers is that they need to be grotesquely evil. Otherwise they won't seem real enough. They also need to be grotesquely dumb. Otherwise their ideology's inconsistencies will break them apart. Same as with Turkish state being (somewhat) more vegetarian and intelligent than Azerbaijan.

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