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What the shit? Are they going to bring back "an eye for an eye" next?
For some people there is no redemption in this life - and I’m not referring to the criminal. Some people refuse to see people as anything other than their past transgressions. And the system is set up to support that. One could commit a crime and that’s all the person will ever be seen as for the rest of their life. Jobs are hard to get, where you can live is limited, and having to tell everyone that the person is a sex offender in those cases.
And some people would rather criminals be killed or maimed for life depending on the crime, sometimes with a surprisingly low bar.
It would be nice if they did.
Eye for an eye, was a law that allowed the (proven) victim to request the (proven) perpetrator up-to (but no more than) an equal punishment to the harm done. Yes a person who got his eye stoned out by crazy guy, could have the crazy guy's eye stoned out. Which is, honestly, fair.
I guess in this case, the girl could request Mandingo to rape the guy, which, while deeply hilarious, might actually teach something, especially compared to just a jail sentence (that might be heavily reduced due to "good behaviour")
I swear all of the edgy children from reddit ended up here...
What's worse, this person probably isn't a child.
Well they shut down or quarantined most of the /justiceporn type subs. They’re everywhere, though. Nothing but a bunch of reactionary, bloodthirsty jackwagons who want violent retribution for minor transgressions or situations that could have been avoided by simply walking away.
but they only want it for other people.
They dont want any violent retribution for their bullshit. because thats excessive, and inhumane, and persecutory.
They can be dicks and expect to get away with it, but I’d also be willing to bet that quite a few are looking to get aggro and fight. I don’t think you go looking for and participating in online groups featuring clips of people getting beaten without having some aggression problems yourself.
Rape is funny when it happens to bad people, i guess. And no, rape does not teach anything. It just traumatizes.
Isn't that a good way to teach the trauma a person caused? And I don't see what place is there for hollywood civility when the person clearly ignored the social contract (so he isn't part of it)
Most Bullies experience domestic violence before they abuse their fellow students. Most child rapists have experienced child molestation. Traumatization does not fix people, it does not correct people, it breaks them. An eye for an eye is a shit way to actually run a society. My partner comes from a society that executes people for "violating the social contract". It is an absolut shithole of a justice system, in which prisoners are completely dehumanized and I do not wish for anyone to live under that particular system of justice. Its not about civility, its about absence of cruelty
While I do question the "trauma causes people who cause trauma", I guess I can agree that trauma just breaks people.
Prisoners being 'completely dehumanized" sounds like a separate issue, concerning the country in question. And maybe points to some details of its culture that are actually making traumatization part of society.
That dehumanization is inherent in the idea of withholding "civility" from those, who you deem to have violated the social contract.
True.
However, I did not intend to paint it so black and white. I imagined the social contract not to be immediately null and void, but rather, with regards to punishment, to be irrelevant, up to the damages of the crime.
No one knows how someone will react to trauma. That's why it doesn't teach anything. Few people can come out of that and be, "Oh, I get it now!"
I guess you're right.
until you or someone you know gets caught up in the court system, is innocent, but due to the many failings in our prosecution system, still end up being found guilty.
Then you'll cry and whine like a little fucking bitch about "how could it happen to me/us!" and people will point at you and posts like yours and say people like you are the reason it happened.
It would be nice if you didn't spew populist bullshit on the web, but here we are.