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Castration is 100% cruel and unusual punishment.
For raping a kid, i don't really care if its cruel and unusual. Deserved.
Friendly reminder that in 1992 the FBI embarked on a crusade that falsely convicted dozens of parents during the height of the Satanic Panic. One of the first convicts spent 30 years in prison before enough evidence of manufactured evidence and coerced testimony was unearthed to convince a court to release him.
In another classic false conviction a father of two was executed for a 2004 house fire that state prosecutors determined was deliberate arson, with the intent to murder his two children. Then Texas Governor Rick Perry repeatedly interfered with court proceedings that uncovered fabricated evidence and pseudo-scientific forensic analysis.
Finally, we've got the classic case of Alan Turing, British engineering pioneer of the computer and hero cryptographer of WW2, who was chemically castrated after being accused of gross indecency with his then-19-year-old boyfriend, following a burglary of Turing's home. Following the castration, Turing fell into a malaise and ended up committing suicide.
There are a whole host of reasons why deliberately sadistic punishments are a fucking awful idea.
Even setting aside the reflexive need to give people what they "deserve", you put far too much faith in a criminal justice system as prone to injustice as any of its subjects. The targets for chemical castration end up not being the most deserving, but the least articulate and most socially vulnerable.
You won't see a guy like Donald Trump sentenced to chemical castration for grabbing women by the pussy. But you can easily see folks in the LGBT/Civil Rights, migrant communities, or impoverished neighborhoods singled out for legal abuses by malicious or career oriented prosecutors.
I was originally going to point out that this guy pleaded guilty but really no need because I can’t argue against your point at all.
That’s a very well put point. I didn’t care about this guy because I was picturing my kid as the victim. (That’s why parents shouldn’t have anything to do with punishing the convict)
I am against capitol punishment on principle. This article just hit me wrong or right depending on how you view it.
I did not think about how these laws can be used as tools to punish “others” especially in states that are or have started criminalizing anything near LGBT. Thanks for the good point.
Man, I'm so happy to see this kind of dialog. Appropriate debate and resolution. This is so fucking rare to see these days, especially on the interwebs. Jeeze. Thanks for being open.
We need more people like you, regardless of the topic debated.
So you're not a believer in human rights I guess.
Read the article, he won't even be castrated until he is 100.
I did read the article. He pleased guilty. Actually it would be over 100 not 100 if he got released. That’s why I don’t really care if it’s cruel or unusual.
I really dislike it when people say “read the article” and misquote it. This guys is a monster and intimidated the family so they wouldn’t come forward. Talk about human rights.
(Edit) going to leave this up to show I was a fool in my haste to post. Another comment showed I was doing a knee jerk reaction. Thanks for the good comments and debate.
Your integrity and good faith are rare and admirable in the modern day internet!