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Escape From Tarkov studio boss says he "did not foresee" players would get mad about charging extra for PvE (www.rockpapershotgun.com)

submitted 6 months ago by simple@lemm.ee to c/games@lemmy.world

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This has to be the funniest PR disaster in video game history. "Guy did not forsee players getting mad for locking a gamemode behind a $250 edition, doubles down on it and tells people to chill out"

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[-] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 7 points 6 months ago

Serious question. Why is this game fun? I played it a few years ago for like 5 hours and I thought it was absolute dogshit and boring as shit Has it improved dramatically since then? Do you guys just enjoy Inventory Simulator? I just don't get it.

[-] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I love tactical shooters and, at its core, EFT is one of the best. By core, I mean the movement, gunplay, physics, sound design, etc. When the going is good, there is almost no experience as visceral as EFT.

What I personally think fucking sucks is basically everything else. Especially the tryhard, creatine-powder-snorting, sweatband wearing *community that has zero sympathy for people who actually have a life and want a really detailed tactical shooter, without dedicating 15 hours a week into researching bullet penetration and common camping spots. Couple that with devs who seem to show active distaste for a lot of their more casual fans, and casual gamers in general, and you end up with a really mixed bag.

I'm one of the people who had this game completely revived for me by the single player mod, SPT-AKI. I can play on my own, with progression, and slightly more laid back difficulty, while still enjoying challenging AI and some of the best gunfights in gaming. I would absolutely love to play an official pve mode, I absolutely refuse to pay $250 for it.

*edit: this only obviously describes a portion of the community. Should clarify that I know there are plenty of players that this doesn't describe.

[-] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

SPT and the multiplayer conversion (Now Project Fika, formerly MPT) are the best ways to experience the game now for a multitude of reasons. I think learning heatmaps and dead locations applies no matter how you play - and the same can be said for bullet penetration, it's just part of the game - but there's a neverending stream of cheaters that feel far worse to lose to than a boss you weren't prepared for. I can get trashed by tagila eighty times and accept that gear is just forfeit, I chanced it going to factory; when I am killed by a head/eyes with no audio five seconds into a fresh raid multiple times a day there's substantially less to learn from and improve on.

Worth noting you can get mods for SPT that change how AI behave, categorize them so some are doing a common farming route, some are moving to quest locations. It doesn't make up for what we lost (the awkward vocal exchanges as you agree to not slay a new player at a starting quest location), but it helps retain some of the spice.

[-] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

This is the first im hearing of project fika, I'd actually looked into co-op SPT a few months back and things weren't seeming optimistic, it's super cool that it's come that far.

And yes, the game has tons of detail and it's worth at least brushing up on some wiki articles to understand things like ammunition hierarchy. I actually tend to prefer games that lend themselves to a bit of research to get the most out of them (300 hours in Elite Dangerous and I'm still a noob).

Really I was just trying to make the point that this is a game where if you just want to jump in for a few matches without doing that research, you'll get absolutely demolished, even if you don't meet a cheater, because so many people play this game obsessively.

That's why I vastly prefer PVE and always will. That detail is there, but I'm not at a complete disadvantage if I want to take a more relaxed approach. I'm not forced into a match against players who take this video game more seriously than I take my job.

[-] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

It’s just the cult of goblins going in, looting and then storing it all in your backpacks in your hovel. There’s occasional enemies and you need to outmaneuver or outgun them, or both. If that’s your jam, it’s great. But overall it’s just a miserable experience, especially when playing solo.