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Hamas says British-Israeli hostage has died from airstrike wounds
(www.theguardian.com)
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this post was submitted on 11 May 2024
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he died from israel air strike 🤷🏻♂️
Yes, but is that his fault? It's disingenuous to disregard that Hamas was the ones that actually kidnapped him in the first place and from what I can recall most hostages are/were treated quite poorly. The article also mentioned that there is signs of physical abuse on him. In general, people that take people hostage aren't quite nice people. (And no I'm not talking about the Palestinian civilians)
And because I know this crowd: Does this in any way excuse the thousands of Palestinian civilian deaths? No, of fucking course not.
He is still a civilian and his death is as tragic as any other civilian death. He is still a fucking human that did absolutely nothing wrong, just like the Palestinian civilians.
It's almost impossible to discuss this war with people (and especially on Lemmy) You really have to add disclaimers and shit everywhere, otherwise you are either a Nazi for hating Jews or you eat Palestinian children for breakfast. Like this:
not saying it his fault., why would it be his fault?
Just saying that his life matters regardless of his nationality. You and the other user seemed to think that Israeli civilians are somehow worth less.
Your reply and usage of the shrugging emoji seemed to imply that this death was his fault or that it didn't matter just because an Israeli airstrike was involved.
let me tell you what i implied, he wouldn't have died if israel wasn't a genocidal maniac. there you go.
Okay, and how is that relevant? Is it his fault or something?
I really don't get why you think it's relevant at all when we are talking about a civilian's death.
Some idiot said "who cares" about his death because apparently Israeli civilians don't deserve to live or something I dunno. I said that the victim was still a civilian.
And you essentially just shrugged. The only way I can interpret that is that you think Israeli civilian lives don't matter.
Please just fuck off, people like you just make everyone else believe that supporters of Palestine are bad people (or as they put it "Nazis") and that they think that Israel should be cleansed. I'm not saying you think that but you have a special ability to be a fucking idiot and say shit that some would possibly attribute to "Nazis".
TLDR: Just fuck off.
bruh, can't you read? i literally spelled it out for you. where did i say it his fault? WHERE? he wouldn't have died if his GOVERNMENT not actively doing genocide.
I never said you said it was his fault.
I asked you again because that is the only thing that I would blame on him personally. It's obviously not his fault and thus his death is unfortunate.
Please take a course in reading comprehension.
It doesn't matter at all what his "GOVERMENT" did.
There are three parties in this war: Israel/IDF, Hamas, and civilians.
A persons country of origin is completely irrelevant when it comes to civilians. It's always bad that civilians die no matter what any non-civilian party did.
He was a civilian, and he was killed because of actions from both non-civilian parties. Saying that his death doesn't matter (which you absolutely implied in response to my comment, both in writing and in emoji) just because someone else killed him doesn't make it less of a tragedy. And the fact that you dismissed his death just because the IDF had a part in killing, makes you a pretty terrible person.
show me where i say it his fault. show me where i say it didn't matter?
You implied that here:
I assume you know how to read and what that emoji means so I won't have to explain it to you.