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A new trolley era (lemmy.world)
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[-] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 282 points 5 months ago

The autopilot will turn off just before hitting them to make you liable anyway

[-] kashifshah@lemmy.sdf.org 67 points 5 months ago

That’s only if you didn’t subscribe to the Ludicrous package.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 5 months ago

Nah even then. Ain't no way Tesla admits fault for anything

[-] kashifshah@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 5 months ago

Until they go the way of PayPal, at least. Musk’s exit plan is Mars, remember?

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago

Can we please speed up his exit plan?

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago

Only do get actual slaves there lol

[-] kashifshah@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago

lol read Stranger in a Strange Land if you want an interesting Mars story

[-] SoylentBlake@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

PayPal sold for a billion bucks, the largest sale ever, at the time. Now it's just integrated into eBay, which also isn't going anywhere, so I have no idea what you're implying. Did I miss something?

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago

eBay and PayPal broke off 9 years ago btw.

[-] kashifshah@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago

Who sold PayPal?

[-] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 44 points 5 months ago

It actually does. Teslas are great.

[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 6 points 5 months ago

Autopilot turns off because the car doesn't know what to do and the driver is supposed to take control of the situation. The autopilot isn't autopilot, it's driving assistance and you want it to turn off if it doesn't know what it's should do.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Autopilot also turns off on planes when things go wrong.

[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago

Sure, what meant though was that Tesla doesn't have self driving cars the way they try to market it as. They are no different than what other car manufacturers got, they just use a more deceptive name.

[-] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

If an incident is imminent within the next <2 seconds or so, autopilot must take the action or assist in an action. Manual override can happen at any time, but in such a duration it's unlikely and only the autopilot has any chance, therefore it cannot turn off and absolve itself if liability.

[-] Biyoo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Autopilot turns off before collision because physical damage can cause unpredictable effects that could cause another accident.

Let's say you run into a wall, autopilot is broken, the car thinks it needs to go backwards. You now killed 3 more people.

I hate Elon Musk and Teslas are bad, but let's not spread misinformation.

[-] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

It seems reasonable for the autopilot to turn off just before collission, my point was more in the line of "You won't get a penny from Elon".

People who rely on Full Self Driving or whatever it's called now, should be liable for letting a robot control their cars. And I also think that the company that develops and advertises said robot shouldn't get off scot-free but it's easier to blame the shooter rather than the gun manufacturer.

[-] Biyoo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah I agree. Both parties should be liable. Tesla for their misleading and dangerous marketing, drivers for believing in the marketing.

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