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I have so many things to say. But it can be said as something as simple as ↙️↙️↙️
Tankies: "Both sides are the same!"
Anyone with sense: "There's a reason all the arrows are pointed in the same direction."
Edit: grammar
So... Iron Font...
I don't know where I stand on this, my introduction to this topic was from an anti-revisionist, anti-fashist Marxist Lennonist. Showing how bad the German National People's Party failed, where one side would compromise or stall and the other would be openly fascist and they would (conspiracy or not), give up or not reclaim ground given to fashism. The german ML party and Iron Font call each other terrorists and have bad blood. So I either failed to understand something my teacher said or he was against the Communist Party of Germany or he was not being candid with me.
The grammar of this comment is so atrocious that I literally can't figure out what you're trying to say, and the spelling doesn't help.
The communist party that the Ironfront opposed were what we today would call Tankies. They belonged to the same faction that betrayed the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War and allied with Hitler to invade Poland. I don't know if that addresses your concern, but I give it even odds.
On the other hand, the SPD was more than happy to use the Freikorps to put down communist uprisings during the time of Rosa Luxemburg, who was very much not a tankie.
I am fairly certain that this was a big factor in the bad blood between the two groups, which predated the KPD's turn towards Stalinism and adopting the concept of "social fascism" under muscovite pressure.
You're talking about events that happened a decade prior to the founding of the organization.
You say that like personality conflicts aren't a core tenet of leftist organizations.
No, I say that like the above comment is irrelevant, because it is. I'm not talking about the SPD; I made a statement about the values of the Ironfront. When the Ironfront started, the KPD was a Stalinist organization, and were rightfully opposed.
The Iron Front was founded a decade later, sure, but it was founded by the same SPD, which was still run mostly by the same people.
I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue. Are you trying to say that means the Ironfront is bad? If so, the facts you presented don't appear to support your thesis.
No, that's not really what I'm trying to argue. I'm saying that the BS wasn't as one-sided as it seems. The KPD were Stalinists in the 30s, but they also had a few legitimate reasons to hate the SPD and the Iron Front.